Leaving this forum because of thread NAZIS!!!!!

Discussion in 'sffworld.com comments, feedback...' started by zombiequeen420, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. zombiequeen420

    zombiequeen420 New Member

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    Well, I'm looking for a COMMUNITY instead of a dictatorship, so obviously this site is not for me. I posted a topic asking for book suggestions, listed some authors/books I liked, and soon my thread was closed, saying I should look at others suggestions in other threads (Which are somehow more valid to exist then mine). This is a book forum, that's the kind of questions asked. Everyone has a different taste in books, I don't want to slop through suggestions for Harry Potter and such when I'm looking for something completely different. I think the mods have a Mussolini complex, and therefore, I'm making my departure, as I'm sure 90% of the sign ups do :cool::D

    Thank you to the people who actually posted suggestions and were friendly, you don't deserve that kind of dictatorship. I'll be looking into the books I was recommended.
     
  2. Renasko

    Renasko Revenant

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    Here, here.
     
  3. Evil Agent

    Evil Agent Saturn Comes Back Around

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    Bye bye now.
     
  4. PeterWilliam

    PeterWilliam Omnibus Prime

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    Heil Hobbit?
     
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  5. another rob

    another rob Registered User

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    You mean it wasn't Rob? I'm disappointed in him.
     
  6. another rob

    another rob Registered User

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    Oh no, wait, it was. Silly of me to imagine different! :)
     
  7. AuntiePam

    AuntiePam Cranky old broad

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    I've seen lots of recommendation threads stay open, but those were threads where the criteria was specific. You mentioned several authors you liked but then said you "like pretty much any interesting fantasy and science fiction...mystery horror...pretty much anything anyone thinks is good".

    If "pretty much anything anyone thinks is good" is your criteria, then the recommendation threads were the best place to start. Posters have gone to the trouble of sharing recommendations in those threads -- why not use them? It's actually rather insulting to ignore them and start something new.
     
  8. Winter

    Winter Dazed Rambler

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    Umm... try not to let the door hit you in the arse on your way out? I'm sure you are eagerly waiting for some sort of vindication or apology before you go skipping away with a spring in your step for besting the evil fascist regime, so, you know, good luck with that.

    AuntiePam has the right of. If you are looking for everyday recommendations, then why open a new thread. We have a pretty thorough one tacked on to the top of the board for that use. You won't get any sort of recommendation in your thread not listed in that one or any number of others.
     
  9. Hobbit

    Hobbit Administrator Staff Member

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    Not quite sure what this particular situation is. New to me as I've just got here.

    However, I am sorry that you feel that you were harshly dealt with, zombiequeen.

    I will agree with your point that we are a community, and usually such requests are dealt with politely.

    As a counterpoint, I do know that when you get 20 or so statements like this a day, and usually by new members, it can be a nightmare to moderate, and can test the patience of the most mild mannered of member.

    The other posts you refer to are perhaps 'more valid' than yours in the respect that they're probably asking the same question you have and it's been already been answered: thus you get a quicker response.

    We also find that such posts usually get the same response. Again, one of the annoyances for some is that the question and the responses have been done before, ad infinitum. Actually looking at what's already on the website will usually answer most people's requests. Perhaps it is uncommon, but we like people to have a look around rather than just demand (even if it's polite!) immediate gratification for their own personal needs.

    With such a large and complex site it can be difficult to see everything going on, admittedly. But if people think that there's answers out there they will point people in the general direction. Perhaps not all the answers you need are there, but they probably are. If they're not, then that's probably because we don't know enough about you to help you more fully. This is why the best answers work best when people have got to know you. And that's usually best served by letting people get to know you.

    Some members do get very annoyed by dozens of posts which basically do nothing to contribute to the community you speak of, but instead take advantage of the community's goodwill. Don't get me wrong: Most of our members are happy to pass on their suggestions, their experiences and recommendations, and are frankly brilliant at it, and they do so with no thought of reply or reward.

    But if we are a community, then surely part of being that community is to actually contribute in that community - you know, to actually communicate, discuss and join in with things already running rather than just turn up to the party and expect things.

    Now, I'm not saying that that applies to you, zombiequeen, though you clearly feel that you've been harshly dealt with. But it does happen sometimes, and in return we do get members complain that there are so many requests for personal attention that they swamp anything else that happens to be going on.

    I hope this has answered some of the issues here, and not specifically to your point, zombiequeen. I've tried to point out some of the wider issues that we usually come across.

    We are a moderated site, and always have been. Usually this involves a fairly light touch because most of our members are excellent at keeping within our broad guidelines. However, I will accept that some may not like the situation and so may wish to go elsewhere.

    As much as we would like to, we can't keep everyone happy all the time. That's not that we don't listen but sometimes we have to bow to the will of the majority.

    Mark
     
  10. nquixote

    nquixote trolling > dissertation

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    I recommend this thread be banned. :D
     
  11. Scrambles

    Scrambles Registered User

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    To be fair your request was rather vague, "i want good fantasy, sci-fi etc, and this is who i have read", maybe it needed more dragons or elves..... you can never have to many dragons.
     
  12. Davis Ashura

    Davis Ashura Would be writer? Sure.

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    No. It needs more cowbell.
     
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    Scrambles Registered User

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  14. Larry

    Larry Vaguely Borgesian

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    I'm still waiting for someone to leave claiming harassment/repression from the "board bourgeoisie." A man can dream, no?
     
  15. Andols

    Andols I like stories

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    haha that will be a fine day.
     
  16. Cymric

    Cymric cynical master of time

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    I have been a long time member of this board and still find the mods insestance (sp) of thread necormancy odd sometimes but when in Rome do as the Romans do.
     
  17. txshusker

    txshusker A mere player

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    Wow.. that's a bit of an extreme, isn't it? I wonder if you ever followed up with the mod and asked the reasoning behind the thread-stop. Seems like a pretty obvious reason, judging by the quick responses already posted. I've lurked here for a while and only joined recently, and I've never seen/read that the community and mods are anything but helpful. A site created, not to make money, but for people to talk about books. One that was created and continues to have information from a decade ago. And not by you. Maintaining a forum isn't the easiest or quickest thing to do. "When in Rome..." is an apt saying here. As is "Don't the door hit you..."

    I usually will find - using the easy search engine provided - answers to most of the questions I have or books already talked about; And especially many threads - on the first page, mind you - about top ten lists of books an authors.

    Unfortunate that you use such drastic words and name calling as Nazis and Mussolini complex; if you had any inkling what they truly meant, I would hope you'd take them back.

    I've gone on too much, and given your thread more credence than it deserves by adding to it after Mark was already was nice about it. I'll go and drink more of the SFF World kool aid, now.
     
  18. Bridie

    Bridie Something witty!

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    This is mightily amusing, almost as much as the George RR Martin debate.

    While we're all being forum facists why doesn't a mod move this to the feedback section, or the genral bit? Far more suitable if you ask me ;)
     
  19. Luonas

    Luonas Statistician

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    To be fair I do think the mods are a little to adamant in refering to thread-necromancy, I have seen it when there have been a good discussion for a while in the thread and then it have been terminated.

    Now, I understand that the fear is that the board would be swamped, but if one wants a healthy influx of new members, they have to be allowed to make their own careers and not just bask in the glory of those that came before. Or something like that ;)

    Balance is the key and I think it is a little bit off at the moment. Some looser reins, would be better overall. And no, I have no intention of starting a thread like that.

    (Often one wants to post in the recommendation thread, and if I go to an old one I will be accused by the mods of bringing back an old thread, should I just read and not post a single post, for those policys doesn't add up)
     
  20. Evil Agent

    Evil Agent Saturn Comes Back Around

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    Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the original poster is gone for good. If she'd stuck around, she might be happy to see that at least this thread got some responses!