First time poster, long time reader. I am interested to start a discussion on which novels epitomize certain tropes. I had this idea because I read a fair bit of fantasy and equally as many reviews for potential new reads. I've noticed that a lot of reviews for new books that are "good" have a statements like: So and so author provides many twists on traditional fantasy tropes. or So and so author takes familiar fantasy tropes and turns them on their head. But what does this even mean? It's practically become a reviewer trope to compare any above average fantasy book to GRRM ASOIAF like it means something. What about the books that made these ideas into tropes in the first place? So what about a list of 'classic' novels that defined the tropes we know and love and perhaps additionally the ones that have recently performed them the best. I'll start. Old "Magic School / Wizard Education" - a wizard of earthsea. New: Harry Potter Best "Overbearing master with eager apprentice" - Not sure for old. New: Durzo / Kyler - Night Angel, or Kelsier / Vin - Mistborn. It's a lot harder than I thought to think of them. But what are the classic stories that made the cliches we know and love? And who is redefining them best? As I sometimes get the feeling that I've read all the good fantasy books, I constantly think of the ones that I loved and where to find other books with those ideas. Right now I'm big on magic systems and can't find any new books that have them well developed. Sanderson's have been the best that I've read recently. Any suggestions?