Price Check: Who's got Daniel Abraham in their top 5?

Discussion in 'Fantasy / Horror' started by Andols, Sep 11, 2012.

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Is Abraham in your top 5?

Poll closed Sep 11, 2013.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

    70.6%
  1. Andols

    Andols I like stories

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    I am blown away that this guy is not listed in more recomendation and top X list threads.

    His name comes up from time to time, but he should easily be in with GRRM, Bakker and other newschool monsters like Lynch, Joe A, Rothfuss etc.

    I cannot be alone in this sentiment I am sure. Do I just suck at discovering awesome people? Is this guy under the radar to a certain degree compared to other mainstreamers?
     
  2. molybdenum

    molybdenum Analyze That

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    Daniel Abraham is firmly within my Top 5.

    I'd even go so far to say he's somewhere within my Top 3. And he is sneaky prolific, actually even more so than the higher profile Brandon Sanderson.
     
  3. Rob B

    Rob B \m/ BEER \m/ Staff Member

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    Yeah, after reading his Long Price Quartet last month, he has definitely moved up in my estimation. Top 5? Close, but not sure.
     
  4. Andols

    Andols I like stories

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    have you read dragons path yet?
     
  5. Danogzilla

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    I don't see Abraham as a heavyweight. I've fairly devoured the first two Dagger and Coin books, and his two Expanse books. I'll definitely read the rest of both series when they come out. I own, but haven't yet read, the first two Long Price Quartet books (Rob's recent raving bumped them up in my massive TBR). The books I've read of his thus far have been very enjoyable, fast reads, but I tend to forget them after I read them. I don't think they engage me at a much deeper level than 'fun entertainment.'
     
  6. Andols

    Andols I like stories

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    makes sense. Are you more in favour of "literary" style prose ie GGK or Mieville and those cats?
     
  7. Danogzilla

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    GGK is probably my favorite writer :D.

    Mieville doesn't appeal too much to me, though I have very little to base that opinion on.
     
  8. Rob B

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    Yes, and I enjoyed it a great deal -- one of my favorite books from last year (2011). I haven't read (but own) The King's Blood.
    Was my comparison between GGK and TLPQ what bumped the books for you?
     
  9. Andols

    Andols I like stories

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    Now that makes sense to me. GGK has such a heavy prose style (at least to me) I could totally see why Abraham would seem so light in comparison.

    So whats holding him back from your top 5?
     
  10. Rob B

    Rob B \m/ BEER \m/ Staff Member

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    Matthew Stover
    George R.R. Martin
    Neil Gaiman
    Tad Williams
    Stephen King
    Gene Wolfe
    Michael Moorcock
    Robert Jordan
    John Scalzi
    Jim Butcher

    Plus, the books are too recent in my memory to stack them up against other writers.

    If you rephrase the question as "Favorite SFF writer to emerge in the 21st Century?" then Abraham would clearly be in the top five.
     
  11. molybdenum

    molybdenum Analyze That

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    For me, it is the consistency of his books that is incredible. I'm not sure he has a book that would be in my Top 5 or Top 10 overall, but the fact that every book is fantastic is impressive to me. Most writers have off books now and then, I've yet to see Abraham at anything less than the top of his game.

    That also may be why he is a bit underated, because consistency isn't quite as flashy as coming up with a spectacular book that just blows you away every now and then. So while many of the writers Rob mentioned have written better books, the ones I've read have let me down on occasions too, something that is yet to happen with Mr. Abraham. (But I haven't read his MLN Hanover books, so that may be them.)
     
  12. Andols

    Andols I like stories

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    Im talking Fantasy only so scalzi wouldnt make the cut. So if we were talking fantasy writers still currently writing he would be close? That's more what I meant anyway.
     
  13. Rob B

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    Since the list is a rotating door, in all honesty, then he would likely get to the top five in some cases/days.

    That said, I haven't read the M.L.N. Hanover novels he's written yet, nor the collaboration he did with Martin/Dozois to to give him a full reckoning.
     
  14. ArtNJ

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    I think the writing is very good but the plotting of Leviathan Wakes and the 2 Dragon's path books (er, I think I read two, blanking) wasnt as strong. There was enough action, and the pace was good but I just found parts of the plots to be a little on the silly or contrived side. Vomit zombies in LW, and the whole "you burned everyone alive, your a hero!" plot point being examples. I cant stay entirely "in book" when I read stuff of this sort, which tends to be a requirement for me to remember something as an all time fav.

    Just my opinion.
     
  15. Danogzilla

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    Mostly your general excitement over the books. Excitement is catchy.
     
  16. AmethystOrator

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    Conversely, I am "blown away" that he comes up as much as he does.

    I tried the first book in the Long Price Quartet and was extremely disappointed by the shallow and insubstantial characterization. I was quite unimpressed with his prose as well.

    The basic plot and the world-building were interesting enough, and I honestly was hoping to enjoy the book, but I came away deeply disappointed with the final product.

    Based on this, Abraham absolutely makes my worst/bottom 5.
     
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    I think there's momentum building. I hang out in a couple places that aren't specifically about SFF books, but end up having quite a few sff-book-recommendation threads. When I first picked up Dragon's Path last year, the Long Price Quartet had gone completely under my radar and I'd almost never seen him mentioned outside of boards like this one.

    In the last six months, pretty much every single rec thread on those other sites has included a mention of the LPQ. If I hadn't already discovered the series retro-actively, I'd definitely be sitting up and taking notice now.
     
  18. beniowa

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    I voted yes, but with the caveat that it's just for Long Price Quartet. I struggled with the urban fantasy series before dropping it. Expanse and Dagger and Coin have been good, but haven't grabbed me as deeply yet. I'll see how I feel when both are finished.
     
  19. molybdenum

    molybdenum Analyze That

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    Should the MLN Hanover and James SA Corey novels be included in this? I think the whole reason Abraham adopted such open pseudonyms was to set up certain expectations from each named author. So while I don't find the Corey novels to be quite as brilliant as the Abraham novels, that is because he is trying something completely different and not so in tune to being in my best ever list, even though he is perfectly competent at it.

    And really, I don't even have much of an interest in trying the Hanover novels, because the subject matter doesn't really appeal to me. Once again, I believe it's probably competently done, I just wouldn't find anything top 5 author worthy inside of it.
     
  20. Andols

    Andols I like stories

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    I wouldnt include the expanse novels due to not knowing how much is being contributed by each author. the world itself was mostly done by mr frank i believe, but who knows for the rest.