I know this is in the wrong place to post this and, honesty, I don't give a damn. You want to make this site a better place to discuss SF and fantasy lit., then ban people like 3rdI (again), not ChrisW. Everyone here knows who the people that are ruining this forum are. Deal with them, why don't you? Until then, this forum has just become another place for assholes to be assholes, just like every other place online, and I have no interest in taking part anymore. For the longest time I have referenced this forum as island of sanity in the online world; as an example of how adults can act like adults online to discuss a common interest; contrary to most other forums or places online. SFFWorld is no longer that. Now days, because of a handful of people who claim to be adults but who act like children, this forum is no different than any other place on line and that makes me sad. The result is (not that I expect anyone to care) that I'm done with this place. I have been an irregular poster, but DAILY visitor for 6+ years and have considered this site an invaluable resource for info and opinions about fantasy lit. No longer is that true, as most threads seem to be inundated with childish bickering and arguments over topics such as the validity of the alpha-male (read "asshole") personality. Now days, I care less and less what what this site has to say. DAG, TAKE HEED. I KNOW I AM NOT ALONE. My screen name is Obtuse and you can deactivate my account or not, I don't care; I won't be visiting any longer.