The Ninth Avatar by Todd Newton

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  1. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    "On the other hand..."

    I see what you're saying, Bastard, but the word "literally" has historically been less of a figure of speech. People like hippokrene get angry that it's wrangled into a use it wasn't intended for, which in many cases is actually just hyperbole. It just creates odd juxtapositions when people say <an in animate object> literally does anything. Even so, I think she got her point across with the statement, and my follow-up should have removed all doubt.

    People are allowed to say what they want, but sometimes that makes it difficult to understand them. That's my stance, anyway.
     
  2. Bastard

    Bastard Jack Bauer

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    My final word on this issue, is that I really hate when people make it to be something that's flat out wrong. It's fine not to like it, similar to how many of us don't appreciate teens saying "It's like" over and over. That one says "literally", when it actually isn't "literally" is what brings the hyperbole to life.

    In fact, I think the best way to equate it is to sarcasm which maybe similar to this issue might make certain statements difficult to understand. It's all pretty much a lie, which for the most part it's understood that it's a lie, and that being so it serves it's purpose be it being funny, hyperbole, etc.

    So while it's not being used for it's intended purposes, it's not being used wrong. It's just an on purpose lie that by all accounts thinking being should understand it as such and not take it at face value.

    Just like sarcasm, it can be hard at times to identify what is meant when things are written instead of expressed verbally, but for the most part one can tell. I mean, are we actually wondering if books have legs? I very much doubt it.

    That'll be the last of it from my part, while I find these debates fun I want to hear more from The Ninth Avatar. Yet to see any member here express that they've read it, and I very much doubt that's the case. Come on, at least one of you should have tried it no?
     
  3. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    Fair enough.

    The only boardgoer I know of who has read it is Seak. He posted his review here. He also rated it on Goodreads. I think, though, since his wife is literally having a baby this week, you probably won't see him respond on this topic...

    (sorry, couldn't help myself)

    To be honest, the book hasn't been out all that long yet and as has been pointed out previously I haven't "notified" the board about its existence. You have no idea how much of a surprise it was to see this topic.
     
  4. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    If you do have any other questions on the book, let me know.
     
  5. Bastard

    Bastard Jack Bauer

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    Just remembered that you were giving away 3 hardcover copies in Goodreads and couldn't find where to sign up (not very familiar using the site)... but just noticed it's the 18th. Damn procrastination.
     
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  6. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    Yeah, it ended first thing this morning. Sorry!

    Goodreads.com is a pretty good site. I've been trying to get more involved there, and it has eight reviews now (including Seak's and Cindy's), even if some are only star-ratings.

    It's fun to post what I'm reading, and post that I finished it. Makes me feel like I accomplished something. :D
     
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    Oh yeah, it's a cool site. I often find early reviews there, but that's just about it... search for a book and see what people are saying. Other than that, I don't know what other features are there, and for example, where to look for the giveaways.

    Maybe I should just become a member and see what else they have to offer.
     
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    I've bought the book, but haven't read it. Just too darn busy. Once read, I'll post a review here.

    I read an unpublished draft of Todd's and if Avatar is anywhere near as good as his drafts, then I'm sure you'll all enjoy it.

    Yeah, I thought the price was high too, but the book is printed on fairly good stock and it's well designed. Plus the small publisher thing and all.

    Todd - you can do all the self-promo you want on this site in the blog section. I'm not sure how much traffic the blogs get, but worth a shot as it's completely free.
     
  9. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    I found Goodreads pretty daunting, at first, which is why I didn't get as "involved" with the site right away. I still don't frequent any of the discussion boards or groups... too many conversations going that it's hard to join mid-way. It is a really good place to see what other people think of a book, particularly one you're considering for purchase and/or a read. If you do sign up, make sure to "friend" me on there.
     
  10. tdnewton

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    Thanks for the votes of confidence, Nila. I'm quite curious to hear what you think of 9A after having read Scions, whether you think the stories are similar, and whether you think the characters are similar, and whether you think my "style" has improved over time. Very interested.

    Regarding the blogs and the self-promo... I will look into doing a bit more of it. I've never been proficient at any kind of "sales" because I don't consider myself all that persuasive. Advertising is still a really new realm to me.
     
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    I'm a bit late getting back to this discussion because I've been out of town and disconnected for a few days, but I want to clarify a couple things and then we can drop this topic for good.

    First, to tdnewton, I completely understood from the beginning what the reviewer's intended meaning was, but I thank you for the clarification any way. ;)

    Second, I hear what you're saying, Bastard, about people intending to "misuse" the term and that being akin to sarcasm or hyperbole. I get and don't really have a problem with that. I think, however, that in many cases it's not being "misused" intentionally, but being misused out of ignorance. It's the latter that bugs me.
     
  12. Pvt

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    Well it's not a long book at 374 pages, but it seems like my tbr pile is growing so steadily that I'm not certain I have time for a book that almost no one has read. I go by reviews and ratings and this has almost none on goodreads.
     
  13. tdnewton

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    Totally understandable, Pvt. It's tough to want to take a chance on a debut, especially if there aren't many recommendations backing it up. I'm working on this, I promise!

    I hope you keep it in mind for the future, and circle back at some point. Thanks!
     
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    Never doubted you for a second, just couldn't pass up a chance to feel clever. That was a bit of impromptu promo for the novel, there. Can you tell I don't write copy??
     
  15. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    Ack, I just looked on that bookdepository site. I have absolutely no idea why the prices are so high there. Amazon has them much cheaper and, of course, the publisher sells them directly for list price.

    Trapdoor is also doing a promotional contest. If you fill out one of their puzzles from TheGriddle, and send it in, you get a secret code to put in when you order one or more books. Your order could be free, or you could win an e-reader. They're running this all summer long, and the puzzles are fun anyway.
     
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    Yeah, I thought it was the hardcover when I ordered it, but nope. Oh well, I don't think I would have saved much with Amazon anyways, with shipping. Maybe a couple of dollars. I should receive it later this week, Shadow's Son arrived today and Ninth Avatar was only a couple days behind.
     
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    I reviewed 9th Avatar a few weeks ago and at first I did not like what I was reading but as I finally settled down and just went with it, I found myself in for quite an enjoyable ride.

    It reminded me of my early days when I was just getting into the genre with Dragonlance and the like. I have such fond memories of that period of time in my life so 9th Avatar won me over with a return to simpler times.

    I highly recommend the book and see some great things for Newton in the future.
     
  18. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    I'm still working to drum up support. I guess the more reviews I get, the more people will want to read it? That's somewhat logical.

    If anyone's read it and wants to post/link to their review, I'd appreciate it.

    If there are any questions on the book, itself, or how to best acquire it, let me know.
     
  19. Seak

    Seak and I like to party.

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    Finally chiming in. :) I enjoyed The Ninth Avatar, great characters, lots of action, and lots of imagination. Still can't get over how pretty it looks on the shelf too.
     
  20. tdnewton

    tdnewton The Ninth Avatar

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    Seak, thanks for chiming in.
    The cover does seem to be people's favorite part of the book, which definitely is not a bad thing.

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