Time to Vote for Goodreads Choice Awards - Fantasy

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  1. sullivan_riyria

    sullivan_riyria Creator of Worlds

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    It's that time of year again. Fifteen books have been nominated in 20 categories, including Fiction, Nonfiction, Mystery, Memoir, Young Adult Fantasy, and many more. Voting is open to all 12 million Goodreads members, and winners will be announced in December.

    Go vote for your favorite here.

    Instead of consulting publishing experts or a judging panel, goodreads looks to readers to find the best books of the year. We analyze statistics from the 170 million books added, rated, and reviewed on the site in 2012 and nominate based on a book's number of ratings and average rating. So a nomination is truly an honor because it comes straight from the readers!

    This years nominess are:
    • Alif the Unseen by G. Willow Wilson
    • Bridge of Dreamsby Anne Bishop
    • Casket of Souls by Lynn Flewelling
    • City of Dragons by Robin Hobb
    • King of Thorns by Mark Lawrence
    • Percepliquisby Michael J. Sullivan
    • Some Kind Of Fairy Tale by Graham Joyce
    • The Blinding Knife by Brent Weeks
    • The First Confessor by Terry Goodkind
    • The Killing Moon by N.K. Jemisin
    • The King's Bloodby Daniel Abraham
    • The Traitor Queen by Trudi Canavan
    • The Wind Through the Keyhole by Stephen King
    • The Woman Who Died A Lotby Jasper Fforde
     
  2. Loerwyn

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    Stephen King got my vote as he's the only one I've read from that list.
     
  3. Mark Lawrence

    Mark Lawrence The New ... MARK LAWRENCE

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    Excellent book & the only one I've read off the list (that I didn't write). I must read Robin Hobb's latest.

    I was blown away when Prince of Thorns was a nominee last year (and shocked that it made the final). To have King of Thorns in there is just great!

    Anyone wondering what difference it makes could look here: http://www.princeofthorns.com/kot_stats.JPG

    I saw the same thing last year.
     
  4. sullivan_riyria

    sullivan_riyria Creator of Worlds

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    Congratulations. I was similarly surprised (heard about it from someone on twitter). In 2010 The Emerald Storm was nominated, which was even more surprising as it was the only self-published title that year. Percepliquis is kind of a hybrid. Orbit released the ebook and I put out the paperback. Being the last book of six, I don't expect much, but it is truly an honor to be included in this list.
     
  5. Haliax

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    It's too bad Abercrombie's Red Country didn't get on the list. I think in a couple months time it probably would have qualified. I've only read two from that list (Percepliquis and Some Kind of Fairy Tale), but I plan on getting around to reading at least King of Thorns, The Killing Moon, and The Blinding Knife by the end of the year. I really wish they wouldn't hold the vote so early in the year.

    As it stands, I voted for Percepliquis.
     
  6. sullivan_riyria

    sullivan_riyria Creator of Worlds

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    I'm sure that Joe's Red Country will be on the list for next year. Thanks for voting for Percepliquis. I think they have the cut-off early so that they can announce in December. Turns out to be a boon for me thought ;-) Seriously all those books that you have yet to get to are...I'm sure very good as well. I've heard good things about each of them.
     
  7. Haliax

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    Is that how they work it? Re-arrange the calendar a bit to allow for a December announcement? Makes sense. I hope to see Red Country on the list next year then.

    Without trying to flatter, I doubt that any of those three would have knocked Percepliquis off the list (outside of maybe the Jemisin). It was a great ending to a great series. I'd have to look back at my 2012 log, but I think the only book I've read that was released in 2012 that I rated higher than it was Red County. There are 2 yet to read that I expect may contend, being Sharps by K.J. Parker and The Killing Moon.

    I do want to say that Some Kind of Fairy Tale was also a good read. It didn't have quite the impact on me that The Silent Land did, but it was still thought provoking for me.
     
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    I voted for The Killing Moon, although I liked the second Dreamblood book better, and I will probably pick Sharps by K J Parker and King's Blood by Daniel Abraham as my 2012 favorites. But I like what N K Jemisin tries to do to fantasy and how she does it. There's a number of titles I didn't get around to yet, and a new book by Catherynne Valente that might also make it to the top.
    Congratulations, Mr Sullivan for the nomination, I think I voted for you last year, so now I picked something new.
     
  9. sullivan_riyria

    sullivan_riyria Creator of Worlds

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    Yes...they do allow for a full year of books...Those that are "too late in the year" are moved to the next year's eligibility.

    I do think Percepliquis ended the series "in style". I don't think I could have come up with a better ending than that. As to the other books...well they are all from Orbit, so they must be doing something right in their acquisitions strategy - I'm glad you are a fan of their chioces.

    I must admit this was a new one for me. But it is on my radar now.
     
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    sullivan_riyria Creator of Worlds

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    Thank you for the congrats. I'll not complain with losing to a fellow Orbit author. Ive not started her Dreamblood series yet, but I have heard many good things about it.
     
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    I didn't even realize that. The publisher isn't usually something I pay very close attention to, but that is kind of cool.

    It is a different sort of read than the rest of the list, but I really enjoy Grahame Joyce. Before you pick it up, I'd suggest reading a blurb and deciding from there if it seems like something you'd be interested in.

    Algernoninc, Abraham is one author that I haven't read that I keep telling myself I should try, along with Paul Kearney. Seems like a series that would be right up my aisle.
     
  12. Mithfânion

    Mithfânion Lord of the Wild Hunt

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    Out of that list, I would doubt between the Graham Joyce, Robin Hobb and Stephen King. All pretty close in quality, although very little alike.
     
  13. Mark Lawrence

    Mark Lawrence The New ... MARK LAWRENCE

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    Well these 5 were written in for the semi-final:

    Joe Abercrombie - Red Country
    Terry Brooks - Wards of Fairie
    Steven Erickson - Forge of Darkness
    Michelle Sagara - Cast in Peril
    Brandon Sanderson - The Emperor's Soul

    swelling the field to 20, which then narrowed to these 10 for the final:

    •Alif the Unseen - by G. Willow Wilson
    •City of Dragons - by Robin Hobb
    •King of Thorns - by Mark Lawrence
    •Some Kind Of Fairy Tale - by Graham Joyce
    •The Blinding Knife - by Brent Weeks
    •The First Confessor - by Terry Goodkind
    •The Killing Moon - by N.K. Jemisin
    •The Traitor Queen - by Trudi Canavan
    •The Wind Through the Keyhole - by Stephen King
    •The Woman Who Died A Lot - by Jasper Fforde

    Down to the final round of voting!

    Sadly Wheel-Mouse didn't make the picture-book final.
     
  14. Loerwyn

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    How the hell did Goodkind get through? Well, anyway...

    Goes without saying King got three votes from me over the course of the voting.
     
  15. Mark Lawrence

    Mark Lawrence The New ... MARK LAWRENCE

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    It's the only one I've read too - an excellent piece of work. I'd vote for him if I thought he wasn't nailed on for the win &/or any part of him cared or would even notice winning :D

    My prediction for top 3 is:

    #1 Stephen King
    #2 Brent Weeks
    #3 Robin Hobb
     
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    Cast in Peril is definitely the best among those that I've read (though I haven't gotten Red Country yet). But the results of popularity contests rarely line-up with my tastes, so that's not a surprise to me.
     
  17. Mark Lawrence

    Mark Lawrence The New ... MARK LAWRENCE

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    If it were a popularity contest Ambercrombie, Sanderson, Erickson and Brooks would have sailed into the final...

    The fact they didn't can be attributed to the recent release of their qualifying books (allowing far fewer readers to get to them before the vote) & thus underwrites that the poll is a judgement (a public one) on the quality of the work rather than the popularity of the author. No?
     
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    I disagree. They may have less fans at that particular site, or other authors may have more, or their fans may be less inclined to vote in polls, or anything else. Twilight never won many polls around here, that doesn't mean that it doesn't have many fans, it just means that they aren't here (or they're here but not willing to say so). We can assume, speculate, guess, etc. but that's all that it is unless someone conducts a formal study.

    We could assume that that's the cause, or a contributing factor, but I prefer not to make assumptions. It could be argued that the fact that those releases are newer means that they're fresher in the fans minds and so those authors have an advantage and that their books aren't doing as well as we might guess it's because the books aren't considered as good as previous publications or those fans have moved on, or something similar. We could ask if maybe the voting is rigged? Maybe one or more authors are somehow bribing their followers, or maybe those authors who have linked to the site have seen a larger turnout in voting than those who don't? There are all sorts of possibilities that are feasible, but that doesn't make them all (or maybe any of them individually) true.

    Voters are probably voting based on what they consider the "quality" of the work to be, but afaic that's still just popularity. Each person has their own definition of "quality" and no two definitions are necessarily the same. I'd bet that there are many sites where more people would vote that Justin Bieber is a better musician than Beethoven and for those people it would be true. But their opinions might change over time and I'd be just as willing to bet that there are other sites where a majority of the membership would vote the reverse.
     
  19. Mark Lawrence

    Mark Lawrence The New ... MARK LAWRENCE

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    I'll admit it, I doubted you, but I have been swayed by your argument.

    The 11 million Goodreads members and the 1 million+ votes cast in this poll, the 50x more ratings Sanderson has than me on site (~quarter million vs ~5000) ... when I suggested his going out in the semis was a reflection of the recent release of his book meaning an insufficient number of voters had the chance to read it ... when I suggested this indicated the poll was in fact based on opinion of the books not the popularity of the authors ... all madness.

    Do you think the rigging is more likely than the bribing, or would it be authors bribing followers that's more likely? Or just both? How much do you think it would cost to get another 1000 votes? I have ... um ... a 'friend' who wants to know.

    Mark :D
     
  20. Loerwyn

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    Abercrombie is a wildly popular author but Red County really has only just come out, so there's still many who haven't gotten to it yet.