Discussion in 'Fantasy / Horror' started by HatchetHarry, Sep 2, 2010.
I'm with you there Jamieem, Glokta is probably my favorite all time Fantasy character.
It's a typo, calm down.
Actually, you're right. This isn't just a typo. This is a very common mistake. I've noticed that people write Glotka about 90% of the time, on message boards. In fact, I thought that was his name at first... until I read more closely and realized I had it wrong.
I think Glotka is easier to say than Glokta. But I like the correct version better. It sounds more like the gun ("glock"), whereas the incorrect way sounds like a Russian name.
Evil Agent is absolutely right - almost anyone commenting on that character anywhere on the web is "typoing" it.
And it is extremely annoying, especially to people like me with understanding of slavic languages.
Mainly because it not only sounds, but it IS russian. It's not a name though - it's part of the human anatomy, "pharynx".
Now, how dare you call such a great character Pharynx, damnit!
Glotka, Glokta..either way, the character is absolutely genius.
Martin, Lynch are good suggestions, Richard Morgan as well - though you may enjoy his SF (especially the Kovacs novels) better than his fantasy (The Steel Remains). I'd also heartily recommend Fritz Leiber's Ffahrd and the Gray Mouser series - not as graphic as Abercrombie, but still similar (and - don't read on Joe - even better)
As to the side-thread: Glotka is a great character, still think Loogen rules though
Firstly it's Glokta (the regular misspelling bugs me, too) and secondly if you're looking for work that is similar to Abercrombie, and I know someone else suggested it, but I'd second it try Glen Cook's Black Company series. Steven Erikson has cited this as an influence on his work and I'd be very surprised if Joe had never read any of them before he wrote The First Law trilogy.
I came into this thread hoping Joe would comment with something funny like usual and the guy does not disappoint.
Hmmm, personally while I enjoy Erikson I don't feel its similar, while the contents may be of a similar vein the writing styles are very different imo. I think Joe's work is much more accessible.
Agreed, that was my hope when I checked it the first time as well.
I agree as well, though I have only read a sample of Erikson. I got through about the first hundred pages of Gardens of the Moon and decided that while I didn't hate it, I was not in the mood for it currently. I plan on going back, but the writing style that I noticed of Erikson's is completely different than Abercrombie's.
I think the difference is that Joe's style is much more personal. I felt like I knew Logen and Glokta and Dogman, etc. I never felt like I knew Quick Ben and cast. Makes the books much more emotional for me.
Personally - to go a little off topic - I found that Gardens of the Moon rallied astonishingly in the second half for me, I felt like I was floundering in the first half of the book, but the second half was highly entertaining. I've only read the first 2 books, but will read the rest, not a favorite but definitely a writer I enjoy, and I can understand the ardor of many here.
Cooks Garrett series is good too - less epic than the Black Company and more character focused (if possible).
I tried the Garrett's years ago, but couldn't get into them. I think they were kind of Raymond Chandler set in a fantasy world.
Yeah, those are the ones... those are great... the next one, Gilded Latten Bones, is due out Nov 2, 2010, according to Amazon...
(Latten is brass or tin in thin sheets, apparently... I almost never have to look stuff up, but that one I didn't know...)
You might like this (underappreciated IMO) book and series:
Heroes Die (Matthew Woodring Stover)
Yes, cheesy cover art but great story that has elements simliar to the The First Law series... Give it a shot.
Dominant Ideology Thesis? That sounds like one of R. Scott Bakker's books. Or was it The Thousandfold Thought?
Disclaimer: Bakker is also a very interesting writer, but not really similar to Joe Abercrombie.
Disclaimer 2: I know Bakker is not similar to Abercrombie because I just looked for their pictures using Google, and I was surprised to see that Abercrombie is a young man. Bakker is young too, but in Joe Abercrombie's case I was surprised because, for some reason, while reading his books I had imagined that he was a grumpy and sarcastic old fellow (kind of like Inquisitor Glotka). I don't know if he is grumpy and sarcastic, but he is not old...
Actually, Glokta is about the same age as Joe in The First Law - middle thirties.
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