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juzzza
April 20th, 2005, 03:37 AM
It also means we will never live forever... if we are repeating everything, then we would have already found eternal life and therefore would still be alive... unless this is the first passing of events? In which case we are setting the turn of events for the future... unless we discover eternal life, in which case we break Nietzsche's universe because we never allow it to repeat... my head hurts. :D
Gary Wassner
April 21st, 2005, 07:57 AM
Ethically he believed that it had some compelling implications. It was a bit of a far fetched theory and it was not very typical of Nietzsche. I never put much emphasis upon it myself when I studied him, but in his mind it emphasized somehow why each person must make the absolute best out of each moment in life, because that moment will recur eternally. It was kind of a counter to Kant's categorical imperative.
saintjon
June 25th, 2005, 06:57 PM
I have a beginning and some day I will have an end.
IMO this live forever science sounds like turning a big part of yourself off. It's one thing to take steps to be healthy, it's another to freeze-frame yourself IMO. You aren't living forever at all, you're enjoying the benefits of a stasis.
I wouldn't even want to live for like 200 years. Imagine having been alive for 200 years right now. The world would be so alien to you...
I'm not for denying seniors health care (if I ever meet the person who wrote that little piece that was provided I'll have some choice words) but I am for people dying eventually.
See this is what I hate about science. HATE. The mindlessness of it, just because we can do something we should do it. As it was said before, overpopulation is a problem already. We already do away with enough lives to cover up for our irresponsibilities, are we now going to deny EVERY future generation their chance to inherit the world?
The whole thing just reeks of too much selfishness and irresponsibility to me.
Gary Wassner
June 26th, 2005, 07:20 AM
Living forever is not something desirable for me, though death is quite unimaginable. But as you get older, I don't think you realize the passage of time. The mental chain you have to your past, the continuity, makes it so hard to think of yourself physically as someone different than you were. When you talk to old old people, they still see themselves as the same people they were, which I suppose they are, and they always comment on how it all went so fast. Suddenly, you are no longer young, and though you might pine for the health and vitality of your younger years, I don't believe that you would really want to be there forever.
People with Alzheimers always live in the present. They lose their sense of past and they seem like drifters. Though they are physically the same entity, the chain has been broken with the past and they are so lost in time. It's not liberating.
saintjon
June 28th, 2005, 03:33 PM
What do you think it would be like if we took a time-out from evolution and all decided to put off dying for a few hundred years? I keep imagining telling everyone that I've had enough, I'm cashing in my chips, and all the people I know just kind of nodding their heads.
My dad had an interesting comment. He'd like it if you only lived so long but you just didn't age lol. Like a normal lifespan lived only in your prime would definitely have it's upsides. I think to some extent you can do that just by living right though.
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