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the movies- should they be animated?


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Draoi
May 17th, 2007, 06:19 AM
A screenplay, whether animated or not is ALWAYS a huge advertisment for a book. Whether it is good, bad, or just different, often the point of film based on a book is publicity for many related buisnesses. Cinemas, magazines, bookshops, merchandise stores... you name it... if its successfully advertised and made to at least a semi-decent standard, people... a LOT of people will go see it. Sure not all of them will go buy the book... sure, not everyone whos read the book will like the movie... but from the studio, filmakers, and authors pov, it will widen it's target audience and if succesful, open itself up to sequals, prequals, spin offs etc etc.

Personally i think the choice to animate this particular series would be a bad creative decision and fairly inappropriate from a marketing perspective. Anime's appeal to a narrower target audience, aka less money. Creativly, anime = loss of realism... loss of realism = lack of emersion.. lack of emersion = loss of interest and a film that flops. Doesnt the fantasy genre aim to emerse audiences so entirely that they suspend all disbelief and enter the world of the author? Does anime make this an unrealistic goal?

Darkness
May 17th, 2007, 10:43 AM
I think that the movies should be animated becouse it would be easier to show scenes that would be harder to do with human actors. Also in an anime the charicter will look the same more or less. Plus it will be easier to show scenes emotional scenes more aquratly. (I'VE GONE ALL ENGRISH) Plus the the clothes might look better.

Has anyone thought about the language it could be in (english of course). But it might go to Japan and in a anime it would be easier to change the language. In a movie you'll have to put subtitles on and they don't make sense half the time. (Trust me it happend when I was watching death note the movie.

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DaniCarr
May 17th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Yes Darkness not all subtitles make sence but Draoi makes(no offence Darkness) a better point. if they did make a movie you'd want it to be as realistic as possible. At this moment in time I would rather if they don't make the book a movie. At least not till they can make better special effects. Too many movie have been destoyed by the special effects and I for once coudn't bear watching it if it were ruened.

Draoi
May 18th, 2007, 05:34 AM
I'm sorry Darkness I don't really understand what you mean. You say that: ...it would be easier to show scenes that would be harder to do with human actors. Perhaps it would help me understand your point if you illistrated with an example? What specific scenes would be easier to communicate through anime and why?:confused:

Also why do you think that ...it will be easier to show scenes emotional scenes more aquratly...? I do a lot of animation - 2D and 3D and with many different techniques and I find it extremely hard to show realism of any kind... perhaps most especially emotion - is there anything more "human" than emotion? For me, i think that a film that trys to portray characters emotional journey is most realistically portrayed with real human actors.

Don't get me wrong, im not writing off anime... i love anime. But i think that anime is only effective if used for the right reasons. I would perhaps make a creative choice to film an anime if the script/content/themes etc really lended themselves to the genre and most importantly, to the STYLE and TONE i was trying to create in the film. EG... an appeal of anime is the exagerated facial expressions (perhaps what you mean by emotion?). I might find this tool particularly usefull if filming something aimed at younger children. the reasons - easier to interperate than dialogue and simpler and clearer than real human faces. Another reason I might choose to work with anime would be if i was doing something that involved a whole cast of creatures/animals that dont exist in the real world. Trained animals not apporpriate, CGI too expensive, human in a monkey suit just not cool! EG Pokemon - a whole heap of entirely fictional creatures that need to each be unique while communicating emotion to a young audience.


yikes that went on for ages! someone shoot me for my strange film obsession.:rolleyes:

Draoi
May 18th, 2007, 05:36 AM
double post had to deleat sorry everyone

piglover4551
May 18th, 2007, 05:32 PM
why hello draoi! I agree completely!:D

yikes that went on for ages! someone shoot me for my strange film obsession

:D :D But then how'd we get all this great info!

DaniCarr
May 23rd, 2007, 11:54 PM
Man Draoi! you know how to make a point. If they would like to and if the movie is a success people could turn it into anime so it atracts even more audience.

But sometimes scenes like (crow) like when Hem reads maerad's second letter and learns that Caddy is dead and it says "his head was whirling with conflicting emotions. He was stunned by the news" I have yet to see someone who would be able to place the fellings in their physical appearence. Maybe I'm ingnorent, but that would not be easy to do. In anime they can over lap images, or place one felling on the face an other in music and other in background, One in lighting ect. I don't know how well it would work, but...

Draoi
May 24th, 2007, 12:22 AM
lol thanks Danicarr. Its kinda my job in real life tho - I have to convince people all the time that filming something in a particualr way is the best way to communicate what they're trying to say.

You make an interesting point... I can definitely see a spin off anime, maybe tv series for younger target audience. Or even branching out a bit, a prequel - "Short stories from the Seven Kingdoms" or something like that. Wicked cool thinking!

DaniCarr
May 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM
No problem Daroi. By the way that sounds like a pretty cool job. I enjoy proving a point and deppating but didn't really thing about movies that way.

I believe that a series for younger children may take away from the master peice at hand. Kind of like Frankenstin, all the info got messed up. And the younger audience may not understand everything.

What do you mean by saying "prequel"?

Just in grenneraly, I'm still not found os the idea of a movie.

~Mairead~
May 24th, 2007, 08:40 PM
I'm kind of warming up to the idea of an animated movie. Then you wouldn't have to worry about certain actors/actresses reminded you of other roles they've played and artistic influence could be more easily captured, being unlimited by real-life places, etc. Even though anime would make it more popular, there are too many negative opinions of anime and it might ruin the books' popularity. :rolleyes:

 

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