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kmankevin1987
November 27th, 2005, 06:41 PM
my favorite character is richard. but zedd and nathan are close seconds.
one of my favorite quotes was in chainfire but since alot of people havent read it i want say it but i will tell anyone who has read through chainfire.
Puddy
November 28th, 2005, 03:51 PM
I like the Wizard's First Rule. People are stupid... it really is so true. People (in general) believe whatever is told to them by anyone.
My favorite character was Richard through the first four books. Now he's somewhat annoying. He thinks he knows everything. He has an answer for everything and sometimes I wish Kahlan would just punch him in the mouth. Now I like Nathan and Zedd.
I know it's not what you asked, but my least favorite would be Gratch. He was cool at first, but the whole "Gratch Luuug Rich-aaaaargh" thing annoyed me to no end.
kmankevin1987
November 29th, 2005, 12:08 PM
I like the Wizard's First Rule. People are stupid... it really is so true. People (in general) believe whatever is told to them by anyone.
My favorite character was Richard through the first four books. Now he's somewhat annoying. He thinks he knows everything. He has an answer for everything and sometimes I wish Kahlan would just punch him in the mouth. Now I like Nathan and Zedd.
I know it's not what you asked, but my least favorite would be Gratch. He was cool at first, but the whole "Gratch Luuug Rich-aaaaargh" thing annoyed me to no end.
nathan and zedd act like they know everything when infact they dont you see how far i mean that when you read chainfire.
richard doesnt know everything he goes where is instincts take him and then he figures out the answer in good time. I dont know why you think he is annoying.
i kind of liked gratch he was pretty cool. that love richarde thing was a lil chessy but it was meant to show IMO that richard and gratch had a mutual bond.
I wish my pets would say they love me. LOL mine just pee on the carpet LOL
Puddy
November 29th, 2005, 02:27 PM
In Stone of Tears I really connected with Richard and his relationship with Gratch. In Blood of the Fold it became annoying to me, but the end of the book made up for it.
Richard has just started to get somewhat annoying to me lately because he talks down to his own group of people. He feels like he has to explain everything to everyone. I really think it's more along the lines of Goodkind repeating events from previous books as if his readers are so forgetful. That's what I mean.
At first I thought Richard was great. He embraced his duty and didn't complain nearly as much as other "reluctant heros" I have read about. In fact, after the first book he was no longer so reluctant. By book three he just took his title and ran with it. I think it was at the end of the fifth book when he kind of gets preachy and then whiny when I started to like him less.
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate him. He's just a little annoying lately :p I'm sorry man, but he was really annoying in Naked Empire. The thing that really get's me is his preaching. It's not long, nor is it stupid, it's just so out of character when you compare him to the Richard of the first 4 1/2 books.
I do miss the use of extensive prophecy in the books though. I really liked Temple of the Winds and how it all came together. Richard was awesome in that book.
I enjoy Zedd because he's sly and funny. Nathan is somewhat mysterious and I like how he's always a step ahead of everyone else.
kmankevin1987
November 29th, 2005, 02:42 PM
In Stone of Tears I really connected with Richard and his relationship with Gratch. In Blood of the Fold it became annoying to me, but the end of the book made up for it.
Richard has just started to get somewhat annoying to me lately because he talks down to his own group of people. He feels like he has to explain everything to everyone. I really think it's more along the lines of Goodkind repeating events from previous books as if his readers are so forgetful. That's what I mean.
At first I thought Richard was great. He embraced his duty and didn't complain nearly as much as other "reluctant heros" I have read about. In fact, after the first book he was no longer so reluctant. By book three he just took his title and ran with it. I think it was at the end of the fifth book when he kind of gets preachy and then whiny when I started to like him less.
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate him. He's just a little annoying lately :p I'm sorry man, but he was really annoying in Naked Empire. The thing that really get's me is his preaching. It's not long, nor is it stupid, it's just so out of character when you compare him to the Richard of the first 4 1/2 books.
I do miss the use of extensive prophecy in the books though. I really liked Temple of the Winds and how it all came together. Richard was awesome in that book.
I enjoy Zedd because he's sly and funny. Nathan is somewhat mysterious and I like how he's always a step ahead of everyone else.
the reason why his so out of character as you say it is because things are starting to become more and more hopeless. everyone depends on richard to be the magic against magic when he doesnt even really know magic.
the worlds on his shoulders and his starting to feel it.
zedd and nathan do seem to be a step ahead of everyone but yet richard still has to save the world.
i like them both they are funny and mysterious. but richard is still my brave rookie hero .
Puddy
November 30th, 2005, 04:06 PM
I understand that circumstances have completely changed for Richard, but he is a different person now. When did he come up with all his philosophies on freedom and having the right to kill people etc.? It certainly wasn't from his experience as a woods guide. You know what I'm saying?
The way he handled everything in Blood of the Fold was perfectly believeable to me. When he ordered everyone to join him or suffer the wrath of the Order I thought that was great. He showed his inexperience, because you can't just force someone to do something without a reasonable explanation, but what he said still made sense.
The way he figured everything out in Temple of the Winds was also really great.
When he started giving speeches to the people in Soul of the Fire, it was starting to feel a little weird because it was kind of out of character. Richard was a man of action through the first four books. Now he's a man of speeches.
Faith of the Fallen was great though. Richard was back in form. He once again led by his actions rather than so many repetitive speeches.
Naked Empire was where Richard's character really took a turn for the worse. I enjoyed the book, but Richard just wasn't a interesting or as likeable in this one. I didn't mind that he had to convince the bandakar that they needed to fight to be free. Richard was only convincing them of the truth. However, when he started talking about non violent people being supporters of evil, that was completely out of character. There was too much random Goodkind philosophy thrown into Richard's dialogue. He also was kind of a prick in the book. He spent a lot of time telling everyone how wrong they were. He just seemed to think he knew anything and everything.
That being said, I'm looking forward to Chainfire. I enjoy the SoT series a great deal, and I trust that it will be better than the last two books based on what you say, kman.
kmankevin1987
November 30th, 2005, 07:25 PM
I understand that circumstances have completely changed for Richard, but he is a different person now. When did he come up with all his philosophies on freedom and having the right to kill people etc.? It certainly wasn't from his experience as a woods guide. You know what I'm saying?
The way he handled everything in Blood of the Fold was perfectly believeable to me. When he ordered everyone to join him or suffer the wrath of the Order I thought that was great. He showed his inexperience, because you can't just force someone to do something without a reasonable explanation, but what he said still made sense.
The way he figured everything out in Temple of the Winds was also really great.
When he started giving speeches to the people in Soul of the Fire, it was starting to feel a little weird because it was kind of out of character. Richard was a man of action through the first four books. Now he's a man of speeches.
Faith of the Fallen was great though. Richard was back in form. He once again led by his actions rather than so many repetitive speeches.
Naked Empire was where Richard's character really took a turn for the worse. I enjoyed the book, but Richard just wasn't a interesting or as likeable in this one. I didn't mind that he had to convince the bandakar that they needed to fight to be free. Richard was only convincing them of the truth. However, when he started talking about non violent people being supporters of evil, that was completely out of character. There was too much random Goodkind philosophy thrown into Richard's dialogue. He also was kind of a prick in the book. He spent a lot of time telling everyone how wrong they were. He just seemed to think he knew anything and everything.
That being said, I'm looking forward to Chainfire. I enjoy the SoT series a great deal, and I trust that it will be better than the last two books based on what you say, kman.
Well when he said join us or suffer the wrath things werent so desperate.
But now everyone who isnt with richard and the goodness of humanity is evil. So yeah it was justified to kill them. To not help the good is to help evil.
I never thought of it as philosophy. I thought it was nessacary and true.
Richard doesnt know anything and everything but he does know the difference between good and evil.
But you have your own opinion ill let you off the hook.....this time LMAO ;) :D
but like ive said.. reapeatedly... everyday..... none stop ... LOL
that chainfire is awsome and maybe the best book in the series so far.
so i cant wait til you read it so ill actually get to dicuss it with someone on here.
Tempo
November 30th, 2005, 07:42 PM
"but like ive said.. reapeatedly... everyday..... none stop ... LOL
that chainfire is awsome and maybe the best book in the series so far."
Yes, yes you have, every day. :rolleyes:
kmankevin1987
November 30th, 2005, 07:55 PM
"but like ive said.. reapeatedly... everyday..... none stop ... LOL
that chainfire is awsome and maybe the best book in the series so far."
Yes, yes you have, every day. :rolleyes:
Yeah that was the joke im glad you caught it LMAO :D
sic's mom
December 4th, 2005, 02:59 PM
I would have to say Zedd. He always makes me smile and keeps me on my toes. Now for the female, which there aren't many, I would have to say Cara. She is so tough and I have always wanted to be like that. Yes she has her issues, but then don't we all. But she loves Richard and Kahlan and for me that is what is important. She will do anything to keep them safe. And she has finally developed a sense of humor. Always a requirement.
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