[hammer14]

This theory is alil far fetched but i want to hear some other opinions on it.

1. In affc jon switches rayders baby with gillys and sends them away. saving the child but changing the way they grow up.

2. could ned have done the same thing
A. When lyanna gave birth and he went to starfall could that baby have (lyanna and rhaegars) been given to the daynes to raise as there own as darkstar.
B. So ned either takes a dayne boy or wyllas child to be his bastard. so i guess if ever robert found out ned could claim the boy with him is really a dayne or commoner and have time to get the stark/targaryen baby out of the kingdom. Im sure ned didnt think further than the babies reaching adolesents he probably figured if they make it that far their safe

I know its farfetched but it would mean both children grow up in noble houses and even if the stark bastard is a commoner look what hes become commander of the nights watch. from low to high an interesting twist. MAYBE!!

[Cat Snow]

I don't think it was that far fetched at all... I've read similar notions in other forums. I don't think Ashara (was that her name? **where did I put my books :confused: :rolleyes: ?!***) really threw herself off a cliff in grief over Ned, either.

To stretch it further, I think that there is a chance that Jon is Asharas child, while Lyanna & Rhaegar's child was taken by Ashara and raised far from Robert's reach. I think that when Ned gave Cersei the chance to flee KL, he was paralelling the same path he gave to Ashara years prior.

Wouldn't that have made Ol' Maester Aemon Jon's uncle or something? Assuming Aemon knew, which I suspect, at least the ol' fella got to be with family for a time near the end!

But I'm a little hinky on the time lines. I guess it's time for me to re-read the whole series now!

[Jekyll]

Think back to book 1 though - Jon is described as a 'splitting image' of Eddard. So it's fair to say that Jon is *definitely* of Stark blood, disproving your theory (if I read it correctly). :)

[hammer14]

hey jekyll hasnt it been said that the starks look more common than the other houses as opposed to lannister or targeyan with there inbreeding and such.

Cat i think ned recalls ashara killing her self cuz her bro is dead, but i like it further that ashara was jons mother and killed herself because ned took her son and left the darkstar in his place.

if this theory is bogus then maester aemon and jon are related as like great great great uncle or something and dany will be his jons aunt.

and if ned lied about ashara dayne dying and she left to raise a stark/targayen bastard in parts unknown he could very well have parrelled that experience with his interaction with cersei, so with that could he be leading or a luetenant of the golden company.

[newleaf]

Your theory doesn't explain Jon's connection with his direwolf.

[Gildor]

I think the discussion is centered around 3 possible parents for Jon;

Rhaeger + Lyanna = Jon ( this has to be the one, Jon is destined for greatness )

Eddard + Ashara Dayne = Jon ( Read that this was just a rumour, and they were in love before Eddards betrothal to Catelyn apparantly )

Wylla ( sp ) + Eddard = Jon ( Nah, doesn't serve any purpose, unless ... Rhaegar concieved another baby with Ashara/Lyanna :eek: Wouldn't put it past Martin to spring twins or another child on us. Wylla and Eddard pretend they concieved to decieve everyone into thinking that the baby he was taking home was a Targayen bastard, and the Darkstar as he is termed is either a last Targayen son born to Ashara, or something silly and boring, like a normal Dayne who just likes trying to kill little girls, ( Or that could be because of a little Targ madness creeping in ) Gaaaaaaaaaah!!!

Come on Howland Reed spill the beans! Pleaseeeeeeeeeee! This is killing me!

I've not got the books on me but isn't Darkstar fairly older than Jon, i pictured him to be in his early twenties. But that could reneder the above statements completely irrelevant, hey they migh be anyway!

[Eventine]

Some food for thought:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23993951/

[Koson]

There is no indication of Rhaegar being interested in Ashara / conceiving a baby with her, and Ser Gerold is older than Jon.

[elfqueen123]

I remember reading some where that,Arya and Jon had very similar features and Arya took after Lyanna .

So translate that as you will.
I don't remember if it was in a g.o.t. ,or, c.o.k..
Can someone help me out here?
Does any one remember the wording of it better than me .
Because I suck ..:mad:

[kron]

Bearing in mind the pangs of guilt Ned was feeling when lying I doubt that his words to Cat about Jon "He is of my blood, that's all you have to know" are not true. I think Jon is half Stark. There is no conspiracy about that. The doubt is whether he's Ned's.