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Pros and Cons of Potter Formula


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clockwirk
January 10th, 2006, 09:33 PM
I've noticed some fundamental characteristics of Rowlings books that kind of help her and hinder her at the same time. Because each book in the series has a formula that it has to at least loosely follow, she can get boxed in a bit. At the same time, these same formulas keep her from getting bogged down in the series.
Robert Jordan has taken a lot of flack for not moving the timeline of his series along at a fast enough pace recently. The first few books seemed to span several months each, while the later books only cover a couple of days. Rowling doesn't have to worry about this because she has a built in device that keeps time going. Each book has to cover one year. She's expanded outside the school year to include events in the summer, and this gives her a little variety between books, but it can also hinder her because she's using up pages on the time before school and may have to rush through some parts of the year later.
There are also things that have to take place in every school year. Christmas, Quidditch (sp?), exams, etc... She gets around these problems by treating them differently every year. Hogwarts for Christmas vs. Home for Christmas, Quidditch cup vs. Goblet of Fire, regular exams vs. O.W.L.s. etc.... But there can still be a "sameness" to the years that readers expect. On the other hand, the fact that the readers expect it make it more effective when she changes it.
Hogwarts. As cool a setting as the school is, I think she realized that it could never support a full seven book series all by itself. So by GOF she is writing major plotlines outside of the school and the school year. Frankly, it felt weird for me at the Quidditch finals in GOF just because I was used to most of the action happening at Hogwarts and everything before they got to school each year was basically introduction. HBP sort of returned the action back to the school, but there's still an increase in extracurricular activities, and now we don't even know if Harry is coming back for his final year. Shock!
There's more examples, but I'm tired. THoughts?

Valkyrie
January 25th, 2006, 09:40 PM
I think you have a good point there. I mean, the climax comes at the end of the school year every book. If I were Harry I'd start locking myself in a closet come May. It'll make things interesting in the last book if Harry really doesn't return to Hogwarts.

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Katala
February 1st, 2006, 05:11 PM
it would be.... interesting....
i wish he would though, and then blow it like fred and george did...
that'd be sweet!

wut do y'all think bout harry and ginny?

whitesilkbreeze
February 10th, 2006, 06:40 AM
The point of the climax being at the end of the school year is a good one. The holidays and Quidditch matches, initiation ceremonies and so on and so forth being rather similar does give it an eventual 'sameness' even though Rowling gives it as much variety as she can. Personally, I'm no longer as interested in the Quidditch matches as I once was at the beginning of the series.

I think it is good how the storyline increasingly takes place outside of Hogwarts as the series progresses. To me, it's symbolic of Harry is growing up and his experience of the world is widening. One can't stay cocooned in a school throughout seven whole years. Even I started living more of my life beyond school as I went up secondary school, and I'm a 'nerdy' person!

As for Harry and Ginny, the relationship was too predictable for me to be very interested in it. Ginny's words at the end made me think his fame is a major factor for her liking him. Perhaps that is unfair, but that was the impression I got.

laulnewek34
May 18th, 2006, 07:32 PM
The point of the climax being at the end of the school year is a good one. The holidays and Quidditch matches, initiation ceremonies and so on and so forth being rather similar does give it an eventual 'sameness' even though Rowling gives it as much variety as she can. Personally, I'm no longer as interested in the Quidditch matches as I once was at the beginning of the series.

I think it is good how the storyline increasingly takes place outside of Hogwarts as the series progresses. To me, it's symbolic of Harry is growing up and his experience of the world is widening. One can't stay cocooned in a school throughout seven whole years. Even I started living more of my life beyond school as I went up secondary school, and I'm a 'nerdy' person!

As for Harry and Ginny, the relationship was too predictable for me to be very interested in it. Ginny's words at the end made me think his fame is a major factor for her liking him. Perhaps that is unfair, but that was the impression I got.
JKR's style of writing is praised by many readers; however, I began to notice that many writers criticize her. . . Or am I wrong? :confused:

Soon Lee
June 1st, 2006, 12:42 AM
I always thought that the HP series is a magical take on the old Enid Blyton (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/1405224037/0/ref=pd_simmore_dp_1/203-5311484-9861511 )books for younger readers like the Malory Towers or the St. Clare series which were both(?) seven(?) books, each book chronicling a year of school.

So in that sense, J. K. Rowling is following a very English tradition. The format provides structure, but it is by no means a straight-jacket.

laulnewek34
June 1st, 2006, 02:14 AM
I always thought that the HP series is a magical take on the old Enid Blyton (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/1405224037/0/ref=pd_simmore_dp_1/203-5311484-9861511 )books for younger readers like the Malory Towers or the St. Clare series which were both(?) seven(?) books, each book chronicling a year of school.

So in that sense, J. K. Rowling is following a very English tradition. The format provides structure, but it is by no means a straight-jacket.
I totally agree with you, but I thought the chronicling of school year was unique for JKR. . .

Silver Serpent
June 11th, 2006, 09:06 AM
nope (btw Malory Towers is ace lol). I also agree with the balance of critisism and praise which Rowling recieves-it seems to be the non magical authors that love her work..

laulnewek34
June 11th, 2006, 09:37 PM
It's just a query; what made Potter so special that Volmold personally came to HP to kill him off; he could just send a Death eater or something. And don't tell me that Voldmold actually believed in that "prophecy" crap; if I was him, i wouldn't be worrying about some li'le boy trying kill me, rather, i would be practicing an art to make an army to defeat entire magic community or terrorize them for some fun.

clockwirk
June 19th, 2006, 11:27 PM
It's just a query; what made Potter so special that Volmold personally came to HP to kill him off; he could just send a Death eater or something. And don't tell me that Voldmold actually believed in that "prophecy" crap; if I was him, i wouldn't be worrying about some li'le boy trying kill me, rather, i would be practicing an art to make an army to defeat entire magic community or terrorize them for some fun.

Well, I guess if you believe in 'magic crap' you'd be more prone to believe in 'prophecy crap'. You've got to consider the world in which they live, where prophecies do come true.

 

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