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Wulfa_Jones
March 9th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Inspired by the top 82 sci-fi and fantasy films post I decided to try and search Amazon.co.uk for so other old sword and sorcery type films.

I figured I knew most of themÖ the likes of Conan, Beastmaster, Willow, Legend, Red Sonia, Krull, Hawk the Slayer, Lady Hawke and the Princess Bride.

However there are a few Iíve never even seen. Iím sure there is a reason why Iíve never heard of them but Iím sure theyíll be good film! From the look of a few of the covers, some look to be little more than softcore porn.

Iíve left the ones that that are clearly exploitation and softcore porns films.

Anyone ever seen or heard anything about films with such S&S inspired names as:


DeathStalker
Barbarian Queen
The Sword And The Sorcerer
SHE
The Warrior and the Sorceress



Any other suggestions for good S&S style movies? The only recent ones I can think of bar LoTRs is the likes of the Dungeons and Dragons movie and Kull

Rob B
March 9th, 2006, 02:17 PM
What about the film based on John Norman's Gor?

Dragonslayer was another, although the "hero" in the film was about the wimpiest hero in any film I've ever seen.

I don't recall if it was 80s or 70s, but either way, you can't go wrong with Excalibur.

Leiali
March 9th, 2006, 03:21 PM
She is the Rider Haggard novel one isn't it? I'm fairly sure it's been on the telly but I thought it was a 70's film and if it is the one I am thinking of, it was quite funny (but unintentionally so I reckon). I haven't checked out the other thread yet, but there was a Sean Connery film I watched whose title I forget (began with a Z) that was cheesy but fun to watch. Rob B, I disliked Excalibur. I don't really get how come everyone I know who has seen it liked it. Lancelot and Merlin in particular really really annoyed me. I recall enjoying the cinematography but that is all. I know that there are various interpretations of the Arthurian myth, and in novels, I accept and enjoy most of them, but this retelling I found was badly acted (Lancelot especially was wooden), and just generally....rubbish. Just realised how much I disliked it writing this! Give me Monty Python and the Holy Grail any day in comparison!

Wulfa_Jones
March 9th, 2006, 03:53 PM
I'm using 80's a generalisation as it seems to have been in the early 1980ís that the majority of these films were made so the 70ís is acceptable. Iím really just looking for any fantasy films.


What about the film based on John Norman's Gor?

Dragonslayer was another, although the "hero" in the film was about the wimpiest hero in any film I've ever seen.

I don't recall if it was 80s or 70s, but either way, you can't go wrong with Excalibur.

I donít know Gor, will look it up. Dragonslayer I do recall, I think it was a Disney effort wasnít it?
I own Excalibur on VHS... I bought it before Iíd ever seen it and was a little disappointed. I think itís a little bit campy and the heavy over use of mist to replace any set design is annoying.

The ďsex sceneĒ with Arthur in full plate armour is quality though.
I think I'm pretty much with Leiali on Excalibur...

Leiali
March 9th, 2006, 03:59 PM
Cool, glad to hear it. Will state now then that the Gor books, having accidentally read one as a teenager are a travesty. So a film will probably be the same. I should think it may qaulify as exploitation or softcore porn. Not seen a movie of it though. I would be interested to read more from Rob B on it...

And which is Dragonslayer? I remember watching Dragon Heart in the 90's, with Sean Connery as the voice of the dragon. Really liked that, though I was probably not in the target audience age group. I don't know if anyone has mentioned a sci fi film made in the 80's called The last Starfighter Now that was pure quality.

Solaar
March 10th, 2006, 03:58 AM
The Last Starfighter - now why isn't that out on DVD?

Oh, and the Connery film was Zolar I think. I'm sure he copied it from my name... ;)

Also, how about Beastmaster, Ladyhawke, or... (drumroll please) - the ever awesome - Krull!

Solaar
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Dawnstorm
March 10th, 2006, 04:36 AM
Leiali, Dragonslayer is a film of the early 80ies. A kingdom has a lottery to select the (monthly?) virgin as sacrifice to appease an ancient dragon. Someone (forget who) hires a wizard and apprentice to slay the dragon, but things go wrong and the Dragon gets angry. The focus of the film isn't the action, but how people deal with the situation. The director had sympathy for everyone: the Virgins, their families, the Dragonslayers/wizards, the Dragon, the King... It's certainly one of the best fantasy movies to come out in the Eighties; I do think it's a Disney movie, but for a Disney movie it's uncharacteristically dark and ambiguous.

The wimpy hero is the guy who played John Cage in Ally MacBeal. What do you expect? :p

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Ladyhawke is one of my favourite fantasy movies ever, mostly due to the great cast.

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I have a soft spot for Krull, although it's *very* eighties. It has one of the best spiders ever in a fantasy movie.

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Same goes for beastmaster. Loved the ferrets!

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Anyone seen Prisoner of the Lost Universe? That one was fun! John Saxon as the bad guy!

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I've seen the Gor movie. All I remember are women in cages and Oliver Reed (though don't ask me who - or what - he played...)

Rob B
March 10th, 2006, 11:57 AM
Oh, and the Connery film was Zolar I think. I'm sure he copied it from my name... ;)


I think it is Zardoz.


The wimpy hero is the guy who played John Cage in Ally MacBeal. What do you expect?Peter Macnicol, who also played Yanosh in Ghostbusters 2 and can now be seen on Numb3rs? Wow.

Zsinj
March 10th, 2006, 12:05 PM
I have a soft spot for Krull, although it's *very* eighties. It has one of the best spiders ever in a fantasy movie.

Here's a fun bit of trivia for you, ;) the actress that played the Spider Queen in Krull is my distant cousin, Francesca Annis. She also played Jessica Atreides in the original Dune movie.

ArthurFrayn
March 10th, 2006, 02:37 PM
That's one cool distant cousin, my friend. :)

She's in The Libertine (with Johnny Depp) that's coming out soon.

But she might keep family up to date on her latest films. ;)