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Which loose ends did I miss? [WOT]


BiscuitsJaM
March 3rd, 2007, 01:13 AM
The White Tower bonds 47 warders. Some of the Aes Sedai who do so are Red sisters.

There is conflict in the Red Ajah over bonding warders.

The "Black Tower is rent and sisters walk the grounds"
(Demandred/Mazrim's Taim's darkfriends are attacked by Rand's followers, but probably escape to become DreadLords)

Mesaana, inside the White Tower, is somehow exposed.

The reason that the rat/raven wardings on the tower have failed are revealed (when Mesaana is exposed?)

Egwene reunites the white tower.

Egwene is saved by a Seanchan (Eaginen/Leilwin?).

The White Tower is attacked by Seanchan.

Darkfriends are rooted out of the White Tower (but probably escape to become DreadLords).

Gawyn finally meets up with Egwene again and she bonds him as a warder. (part of Min's fuzzy reading with two possibilities/Egwene's dream)

Suian finally figures out why she has to stay close to Gareth Bryne to prevent him from dieing.

Suian comes to terms with her love for Gareth Bryne.

Setalle Anan (the innkeeper from Ebou Dar)'s identity is revealed, probably as an ex-Amyrlin, and she is healed of being stilled.

The White Tower has to deal with its awful agreement with the Windfinders.

The White Tower needs to decide if/how it will tie the Windfinders and Wise Ones to it.

The Dragon Reborn needs to "come before the wrath of the Amyrlin Seat" or whatever Elaida's Foretelling said.



Elayne unifies Andor despite treacherous Nobles.

Elayne comes to terms with losing the Two Rivers.

Elayne finds out why there are so many Aes Sedai staying at the inn in Caemlyn.

Elayne deals with the Red sister who claims to have been assigned as an unwanted advisor.

Elayne allies herself with Rand.

Gawyn goes back to Andor to meet his duties there.

Elayne somehow uses the dagger Ter Angreal that hides her from the shadow.

Elayne takes the throne of Cairhein.



Semerhige, inside the Seanchan, is somehow exposed.

Toun takes the Crystal Throne. The "false" prophesy about the Dragon kneeling before her is settled.

Elayne sends a bunch of Sul'dam back to the Seanchan, after they have been convinced that they know how to channel.

All the Sea Folk, Aes Sedai, Shaido Wise Ones, and Kin captured by the Seanchan are somehow dealt with.

The Aiel Gai'shain captured by the Seanchan eventually put off the white after their year-and-a-day is up.

The Da'covale owned by the Seanchan are somehow dealt with.

Beslan, king of Altara, comes to terms with how he feels about the Seanchan.

The Seanchan complete their war in Arad Doman.

The "great captain" of Arad Doman, Rodel Ituralde, who is fighting Dragonsworn and Seanchan, sees the conclusion of his story.

The King of Arad Doman (captured by Forsaken) sees the conclusion of his story.

The Seanchan conclude an allies with Rand.



Mat's army needs to reunite and be sent somewhere.

Eaginin/Leilwin and Domon complete their story, probably via taking Mat's group by ship to confront the snakes and the foxes.

Mat, Thom, and the bony old man go rescue Morraine. To do so, they have to break all the rules (musical instruments, iron, etc.)

Mat "puts out half the light of the world to save the world"

Mat confronts the Gholam.

The bony old man is revealed as Jain Farstrider.

Jain Farstrider cleanses himself from being a darkfriend.



Masema is dealt with somehow by Perrin.

The nature of Masema's involvement with the Seanchan is revealed.

Perrin convinces his wife that he didn't cheat on her.

Perrin comes to terms with his Wolftalking.

The purpose of the Darkhound pack that circled Perrin's camp is revealed.

Perrin's agreement not to raise Manetheren has repercussions (especially since it seems inevitable).



Half the borderlands flock to Lan's banners for his march to Shayol Ghul.

Nynaeve finally meets with the sister that Lan is bonded to and transfers the bond.

The Shienar thief-catcher reenters the story (supposedly he's going to be bound the wheel as a new hero?)



New technology (Cannons, Grenades, steam power, advanced crossbows) is used for Rand's armies.

Min finally discovers what Fel (the philosopher) discovered before he was assassinated by Gholam.

Cadsuane teaches Rand and all the Asha'man "something important"



The Ogier close the last few Waygates.

Loial gives a big speach at The Great Stump and convinces the Ogier to go to war with the Shadow.

The Ogier from Seanchan, who don't need Stedding and serve as soldiers, meet up with Ogier from this continent, who require Stedding and prefer to stay peaceful.

The Ogier decide what to do about the "Book of Translation" and weather to leave this world.



Birgitte meets up with young Gaidal Cain again (Olver?)

Birgitte meets up with old Gaidal Cain (Birgitte dies and is reborn... maybe as one of Elayne's babies?)

Morgase (Maidhrin)'s identity is exposed as the ex-queen of Andor.

Thom and Morgase have their reunion.

Morgase marries Tallanvor.



Padan Fain must finally be confronted decisively.

Galad allies his whitecloaks with Rand's followers.

The Whitecloak Questioners (who joined the Seanchan) are somehow dealt with.

The captured ex-king of Illian, Mattin Steppaneos, sees the conclusion of his story.

Rand somehow "becomes one" with his split personality.

Rand figures out who the mysterious third person inside his head is.

The Black sisters sworn to Rand somehow expose themselves.

Narishma somehow "comes after" Rand (because he drew Callandor).

The tinkers find their song.

Aviendha identifies some important Ter-Angreal.

The Kin reach an official agreement with Aes Sedai.

The Shaido, already destroyed, fade into obscurity? Galina and the oath rod go with them? Obviously, because of prophecy, those Aiel who do not follow the Car'a'carn do not survive.

The Windfinders get their land at each port, and are made "masters of the waves."

The top Mistress of the Waves or whoever is deposed or killed so she can be replaced by the one Min has foreseen.



The lands to the East somehow enter into the story. After all, one of the Forsaken has been spending time there.

The borderlander kings go to Murandy looking for Rand, but must eventually find him to become bound to him, then must somehow return to the borderlands.

Murandy was just united under one King, but now must be bound to Rand.

Rand needs to finish unifying his part of the world. There are other countries also.



Mat blows the horn.

The final battle takes place. This likely includes Mat's Band of the Red Hand, Perrin's Two Rivers Army (with Berelain's Mayeners and his Ghealdan vassals), the Seanchan and their Taraboner/Altaran allies, Rand's Illianers and Tairens, Elayne's Andorans and Cairhein, the Ogier, the White Tower, the Black tower, the wolves, the Whitecloaks, the heroes of the horn, the Sea Folk (maybe just to transport?), and possibly others.

The world is largely destroyed in the last battle. Presumably, the libraries and the new knowledge of the White Tower live on. This may be where the Tinker's Song comes in useful, to help heal the world.

Rand somehow dies to live again during the last battle. The freed Seanchan Da'main (alivia?) helps him do this.

Mat also dies and live again, according to what the Fox-people told him.

clockwirk
March 3rd, 2007, 12:40 PM
gonna be a loooong book.

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Bond
March 4th, 2007, 05:36 AM
This should probably be a spoiler thread. Please edit to mark it as such.

*****Possible spoilers follow.*****

Recently finished my third reread of the series.

Some of the things you mention are already concluded or do not necessarily need to be addressed or should be looked at another way.

Elayne has pretty much wrapped up Andor.

Semirhage for example is already exposed. What on earth her fate will be or learned from her will need to be resolved. Also why she attacked Rand should be explained.

We already know who the third man inside Rand's head is but what significance it has still has to be shown.

The fate of the Forsaken still mucking about needs resolution. Where's Demandred for example. Where did Arangar flee to. What will Graendal do. What will happen to Moghedien and Cyndane? Moridin?

Then there's Shaidar Haran. Is he the personification of the Dark One that Rand needs to face in battle? What's the nature of the Last Battle anyway? Shaidar Haran has the ability to remove access to the Source so is it to be a sword battle with Rand having one hand?

Shara need not be explained much further. That was Lanfear's base of operation and her main storyline is pretty much complete. Even the events in Seanchan proper don't really need to be explained in too much detail.

Setalle Anan is not a former Amyrlin from what I can recall but a sister who was experienced in dealing with ter'angreal.

Isam/Luc needs resolution

Fate of Lan Nynaeve and Malkier

Rand Galad encounter [I wanted to see an exciting one filled with a dramatic duel between the two blademaster level swordsmen before Rand can reveal their relationship, but with Valda saying Morgase is alive and Rand sporting one hand unfortunately I don't see it happening.]

Egwene Gawyn reunion

Mat Tuon reunion

Moiraine

Reunification of White Tower still has to be completed after all this time with plotting of the Ajah heads made manifest and Elaida deposed.

Alviarin's fate.

The mystery surrounding Verin revealed.

Siuan and Leane restored to full strength.

Sharina joins in the action.

What happened to Merilille and Talaan.

Sheriam's tormentor still needs to be exposed and the reason behind it.

Fate of the Aiel who will only survive as a remnant of a remnant.

Anyway with all these loose ends to tie up I still think there still has to be one more plot of the Dark One's minions to thwart. If the Dark One thrives on chaos, there should be one final spate of assassinations aimed at the leaders of the Light before the Last Battle is fought. Also the armies of trollocs and myrdraal should already have been shown to be a real threat. Currently they haven't shown themselves to be a factor. Even the Trolloc Wars seem to be more dangerous than the current situation if one looks at number of nations succumbing to the dark hordes during that time.

JBI
March 8th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Jordan has said in interviews and on his blog that he doesn't intend to tie up every plot, and instead leave some of them open for further work/to be left alone. As well, he also mentioned a "hook" at the end of the Memory of Light for a possible spin-out novel.

Simon F
March 9th, 2007, 07:19 AM
you know that kinda depresses me - just want to know the ending!

MilstAnrin
March 23rd, 2007, 07:23 PM
Rand Galad encounter [I wanted to see an exciting one filled with a dramatic duel between the two blademaster level swordsmen before Rand can reveal their relationship, but with Valda saying Morgase is alive and Rand sporting one hand unfortunately I don't see it happening.]


What relationship is it that you are hinting at?? As far as i can remember Tigraine is/was Rands natural mum they aint gonna be direct blood relatives ('cept perhaps 5th cousins 7th removed or some such like... ) Elayne explains the bloodlines in one of the books but I remember it absolving my fears that the relationship there was a bit incestuous.

On the whole though this is a beginners list of the things that are loose - I don't want every little last thread woven into a nice neat pattern - I quite like the idea of some stuff for us to work out ourselves - Although i will agree i want to know what the crack is with Verin - good or bad....

Oh yeah I noticed an inconsistency with Siuan in Shadow Rising: she lies when she is being hauled off for deposition by Elaida by saying there has never been a rebellion inside the tower(page 777 in the paperback if anyones checking), I remember her telling Egwene that ther were when she reveals the secret histories is not the case?? Could be me reading into it a bit much but I reckon RJ made a booboo...

Bond
March 31st, 2007, 06:49 AM
What relationship is it that you are hinting at?? As far as i can remember Tigraine is/was Rands natural mum they aint gonna be direct blood relatives ('cept perhaps 5th cousins 7th removed or some such like... ) Elayne explains the bloodlines in one of the books but I remember it absolving my fears that the relationship there was a bit incestuous.

Tigraine is Rand's mother---and also Galad's. They are half brothers. As such Galad is likely Rand's closest relative. Galad is also half brother to Elayne and Gawyn through their father Taringail Damodred who wed Elayne's and Gawyn's mother Morgase Trakand after Tigraine's disappearance. Rand's father is Janduin an Aiel chieftain. It gets tangled somewhat but there is no incestuous relationship between Rand and Elayne.

 

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