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July 31st, 2007, 10:01 PM
It's crazy how fast things happen any more.

But consider my grandmother, born in 1900. She remembered seeing the first airplane in town, the first automobile, the first telephone.

That's pretty basic. And it happened pretty fast, too.

August 1st, 2007, 11:00 AM
all technologies seem to advance along the lines of the (whatever his name was) law - exponentially in terms of capability while halving the cost.

In my life time:

trans-atlantic commercial jet flight US-UK
sub-orbital flights
manned space flights
moon landing
man-made object to leave the solar system (or just about to leave it)
home PC (osborne 1 - we actually had one)
touch-tone telephone service
cable & satellite television
communications satellites
handheld calculators
major organ transplants

to name just a few things that most folks rely on today without even thinking about them.

I think the funniest comparison I can come up with is the idea of some teeny-bopper trying to text message with a rotary phone: 'No Way' -

dial - click-click-click-click-click-click
dial - click-click-click-click-click-click
dial - click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click
dial - click-click
dial - click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click-click

Things I miss:

the milkman
the corner drugstore-candy counter
Walter Kronkite (and television news that was actually news, not someone's political agenda or newstainment)
watching the no-signal beeeeeeep on tv when they weren't transmitting
bazooka bubblegum - two pieces and comics for a penny
Captain Kangaroo & Mr. Greenjeans
playing in the fog of the mosquito sprayer (yeah, DDT showers but we didn't know any better)
Worrying about the Fulda Gap instead of terrorist attacks at home

August 1st, 2007, 01:07 PM
(whatever his name was)



August 1st, 2007, 02:03 PM
^ People come here for sci-fi and it seems we're lucky enough to watch someone travel back in time. ;)

August 1st, 2007, 03:19 PM
Sorry for the deviation from Sci Fi - Whoops too late! But here is the full text those guys are stealing the "back in my day" stuff from:

MP: Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup
o' tea.
GC: A cup of COLD tea.
EI: Without milk or sugar.
TG: OR tea!
MP: In that filthy, cracked cup.
EI: We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a
rolled up newspaper.
GC: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
TG: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
MP: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money
doesn't buy you happiness."
EI: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to
live in this tiny old house, with greaat big holes in the roof.
GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one
room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the
floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for
fear of FALLING!
TG: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a
MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a
palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish
tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting
fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.
EI: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered
by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.
GC: We were evicted from our hole in the ground; we had to go and
live in a lake!
TG: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty
of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.
MP: Cardboard box?
TG: Aye.
MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in
a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the
morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down
mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home,
out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!
GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in
the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to
work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad
would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we
were LUCKY!
TG: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox
at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues.
We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four
hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we
got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.
EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night,
half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump
of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill
owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home,
our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves
singing "Hallelujah."
MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't
believe ya'.

August 1st, 2007, 03:37 PM
^ Mice9 :D

Where'd you get that?

August 1st, 2007, 04:01 PM
Phellim - It's Monty Python from the 70's. I didn't find it on the scripts from the 60's BBC television series when I looked, so I dug a little deeper. I used to have the *album* (Uh-oh - Im giving away my ancient-ness). Sometimes we mis-fit and/or miscreant types have photographic memories for the stupidest material. It's a curse. Oh well. Could be worse I guess - I could be living on Rotogen 5 with a Takfrasser for a boss.

- 9

August 1st, 2007, 07:43 PM


yes, thank you - Moore's law - and I offer as proof that I'm getting (or am) old that I couldn't remember it.

August 1st, 2007, 07:51 PM
CRS again (a mental disease closely associated with FOA): what's Socrates' quote about "the youth of today"?

I'll stop with the nostalgia tours for now, except to leave you with one thing:

I wish that when I had been younger, some older person had managed to CONVINCE me that what they were trying to tell me had relevance and was important and that I had listened.

Not just talk at me, not issue platitudes about when they were my age and this is what you can look forward too and etc - but actually get through to my I-know-everything-nothing-you-say-has-relevance-you're-OLD young self back then.

I know its futile and annoying, but I guarantee you that some young person here is going to be saying the same exact thing 30/40/50 years from now.

I'll leave the youngsters with one parting thought:

chances are, with technology & etc. the way that it is, you all are going to be OLD for a lot longer than I'm going to be OLD...

August 1st, 2007, 09:47 PM
chances are, with technology & etc. the way that it is, you all are going to be OLD for a lot longer than I'm going to be OLD...

It'll be interesting to see if that's true. I'm still of the opinion that when dramatic medical breakthroughs in dealing with longevity and the aging process occur, the means by which, will only be available to the inordinately wealthy and the powerful.