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BSG (Battle Star Galactica) vs JTD (Journey Through Deceit


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Q89
May 10th, 2008, 11:18 PM
I am the author of Journey Through Deceit copyrighted 1996.
Wether you are intrested in reading my novel or not that is for you to decide.
I am going to list plot line comparisons between BSG & JTD but first I am introducing you to one of my favorite characters Josie Braxton.
Page 100. JTD line 22: In a matter of minutes three of the six clone assasins, including Josie, would be entering through either one of the two doors opening up to the rest of the ship. The six clones of Josie are all assasins sent by Automated Robotics to sabatoge the colonizing mission she is part of. They wear battle suits each has a numbered pendent on there collar roman numeral I thru VI. They are all scitzo!
BSG "Six of one".

horribleman
May 11th, 2008, 04:58 AM
Absolutely fascinating. Now, what are you talking about?

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Q89
May 11th, 2008, 06:32 AM
I am chronicling similarities between my novel and the new BSG series. I have been fasinated by this show only to discover the more I watch it and the more I reflect on my own plot lines the more basic simularities I have discovered. Leave out all of the BSG jargon. I will only refer to plot sequences I feel resemble events or characters from my book. In 1997 I hired a freelance editor to edit a portion of an unfinished work in progress that I have abandoned. She bragged about knowing writers in Hollywood working on the show Profiler. When she was finished I offered her a check and one copy of Journey Through Deceit. One month later I watched an episode of the profiler to find an eerie resemblance. A certain character she had questioned me about appeared in the episode under a different name acting and using similar dialogue I had written. She never returned my calls or emails! I am currently searching for her Name.

Andols
May 12th, 2008, 08:27 AM
Has your novel been published? I cannot find it anywhere.

Q89
May 12th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Pg 152-163 Journey Through Deceit- Relating to episode "Faith" BSG. If you have it on TV save it. If not have a friend record it for you.
This is the scene where Starbuck keeps changing course. My robot was obviosly edited out but Athena takes its place.
Lt. Sakamora is the equivelent of Lt Kastanza. Starbuck mentions own language read pg 54 ten lines up.
This is from my book 5 lines up. "Are you trying to tell me a robot was designed to communicate in its own form of language that we know nothing about?"
Pay close attention to page 156. Remmembering completely different characters same scene.
My character Kirtly takes shrapnel in her leg and her military squad come to her aid and patches her up. After commercial and the cancer patient scene, you will see the shuttle docked on the colonial frieghter ship. Play this scene over atleast 5 times it is described word for word. Paragraph 5 first sentence. The hatch clicked open and a gush of vapor followed close behind.
Watch Starbuck and the other character I can't remmember his name.
Page 153. Two egos stood facing one another Who's would prove to be the biggest?
I have more!

Holbrook
May 13th, 2008, 02:05 AM
Q89;

Just a thought;

You are, on a public forum, accusing the writers and producers of BSG of plagiarism. I would think on that before you post any more...

Q89
May 13th, 2008, 07:18 AM
I'm only comparing plot lines and similar character detail. I have not acused them of anything. This is just a comparison of what they have distributed to the public and what I have available to the public since 1996.

Andols
May 13th, 2008, 07:25 AM
Pg 152-163 Journey Through Deceit- Relating to episode "Faith" BSG. If you have it on TV save it. If not have a friend record it for you.
This is the scene where Starbuck keeps changing course. My robot was obviosly edited out but Athena takes its place.
Lt. Sakamora is the equivelent of Lt Kastanza. Starbuck mentions own language read pg 54 ten lines up.
This is from my book 5 lines up. "Are you trying to tell me a robot was designed to communicate in its own form of language that we know nothing about?"
Pay close attention to page 156. Remmembering completely different characters same scene.
My character Kirtly takes shrapnel in her leg and her military squad come to her aid and patches her up. After commercial and the cancer patient scene, you will see the shuttle docked on the colonial frieghter ship. Play this scene over atleast 5 times it is described word for word. Paragraph 5 first sentence. The hatch clicked open and a gush of vapor followed close behind.
Watch Starbuck and the other character I can't remmember his name.
Page 153. Two egos stood facing one another Who's would prove to be the biggest?
I have more!

This is a very odd exchange from my perspective.

None of us can follow along with what you're saying. We don't have your novel.

Maybe this kind of thing would be better suited to a blog or something of that nature. It's a bit difficult to engage in a discussion in which we don't have anything to reference.

mylinar
May 13th, 2008, 11:15 AM
I did a search on both the original publisher of your book, Commonwealth Publications, and the current one, BookSurge Publishing. Both of these are vanity publication outfits with the former having numerous legal complaints against it. The stories here at http://www.sfwa.org/Beware/cases.html are
quite interesting.
If you are going to tout something you have written and published it seems only fair that you include the caveat that this work is self published and did not go through a professional editing process as would happen in the normal course of events.
Since the work in question was self created and self published it strikes me as disingenuous to be complaining about plagiarism from a professional production such as BSG. The chances of them having had contact with your work strike me as remote at best, astonomical at worst.
I am not criticizing your story since I have not read it. I am complaining about the way you are presenting it and yourself in what seems to be a viral-like marketing strategy (given other posts you have made) to get people interested in it. Again this is not illegal, but the people on these forums are very intelligent and would respond much better to candor and frankness than caginess.

Andols
May 13th, 2008, 11:42 AM
I did a search on both the original publisher of your book, Commonwealth Publications, and the current one, BookSurge Publishing. Both of these are vanity publication outfits with the former having numerous legal complaints against it. The stories here at http://www.sfwa.org/Beware/cases.html are
quite interesting.
If you are going to tout something you have written and published it seems only fair that you include the caveat that this work is self published and did not go through a professional editing process as would happen in the normal course of events.
Since the work in question was self created and self published it strikes me as disingenuous to be complaining about plagiarism from a professional production such as BSG. The chances of them having had contact with your work strike me as remote at best, astonomical at worst.
I am not criticizing your story since I have not read it. I am complaining about the way you are presenting it and yourself in what seems to be a viral-like marketing strategy (given other posts you have made) to get people interested in it. Again this is not illegal, but the people on these forums are very intelligent and would respond much better to candor and frankness than caginess.

Could you post or PM the info you found. I am trying to obtain a copy of the work.

 

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