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Barbarossa
November 28th, 2001, 11:11 PM
I would be interested if other people here become nitpickers too in special cases?

I'm usually quite tolerant to details and allow stories to suck me in, but in certain cases details just stand out so much they distruct me from the story and awake the nitpicker in me.

For example "the baker boy"by J.V. Jones.
Usually I wouldn't mind if an author knows anything about baking or not. But if you name your book after an hero who is a baker, I find total ignorance of old baking methods and the problem of baking with wood stoves, really offputting.

*********Minor spoiler********

**********************************

For those who want to know:

A key scene in the book is when the hero first demonstrates magical powers, after he lets some loafs burn by stoking the fire too much.

Now it would be totally impossible to bake loafs in oven heated by an ongoing wood fire.
You would never get the kind of regular heat
you need, the loaves would burn on the fire side.

What people actually would do is to make the fire in the oven itself, let it burn for a whole day, till thick loam walls had stored the heat, then brush out the embers and insert the loaves.

You can leave laves too long that way, so the harden too much, but you can't burn them.

People were still baking that way in rural areas not far from my hometown in my lifetime, some of the ovens being as old as the villages (up to 800 years).

****************Spoiler end**************

Does anyone get irked in similar ways by other books?

Bardos
November 29th, 2001, 12:45 AM
I usually don't notice such technical stuff, but, when I do, I get mad. http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif

Personaly, what anoys me more is the lack of logic in some cases: when I just can't believe that this or that would happen or the characters would be so stupid to do that without any farther explanion by the author.

But, come to think of it, even the lack of logic doesn't spoil my fun if the story is good. E.g., in Erikson's books many things are left vague, and seem illogical, but I still like his work. *** SPOLIER for the FARSEER TRILOGY While, on the other hand, I hated Hobb's Farseer, when Verity left Regal unpunished. END SPOILER***

[This message has been edited by Bardos (edited November 29, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by Bardos (edited November 29, 2001).]

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Barbarossa
November 29th, 2001, 12:46 AM
Agree Bardos, but that's not nitpicking, but fundamental, justified chriticism http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/wink.gif

jbcohen
November 29th, 2001, 01:24 AM
I can understand what is being said here. Some of my fellow Dragon Lance adicts have a tendency to do the same thing. They like to be able to tell the shoe size of each of the characters in every one of the approximatly 200 Dragon Lance novels. I, rather like to get the general flavor of the novels rather than each detail. If a detail is needed than I can simply query one of the nitpickers and get a hold of the nitpicking detail.

Eventine
November 29th, 2001, 03:22 AM
Bardos, please post spoiler comments.

Minor LOTR Spoiler
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I remember someone pointing out that the shire wasn't the sort of place that had banks, yet when the hobbits arrived in Bree they had money to pay for the room.
I must admit I never bothered to go have a better look though.
******************************************
End Spoiler

Lord Soth
November 29th, 2001, 03:40 AM
Barb about the bakers boy thing u talk about on going fires etc. But whilst its been a while since i read the books I'm sure i remebered something about the use of large slabs which we're heated up by the different woods to heat the bread. I think one of his main fears was breaking them casue they were so heavy?

If so it would avtually negate your point. But i get what your driving at.

Bardos
November 29th, 2001, 06:32 AM
I'v just remembered something from the Runelords.

Farland says that a ship can carry 10.000 people(!!!). Hasn't he read _anything_ about medieval ships?? It can carry 300 people, max.

Lani
November 29th, 2001, 09:49 AM
Well, I usually don't go "nitpicking" when I read, but in some cases the books have way too many of those little things that just wouldn't work. That's when my opinion about the book goes down quickly and if that kinda stuff continues I just drop the book.

JohnH
November 29th, 2001, 03:32 PM
Actually Farland's use of numbers concerning populance always bothered me. In a medieval society he still tends to uses thousands and thousands and even several hundred thousand people in circumstances that just would not allow such numbers. A gathering around a fortress involves over four hundred thousand people, this number would be staggering to feed and even just water, yet farland seems to think these numbers are no problem for the type of culture and society that he establishes in the book.

Keyoke
November 29th, 2001, 03:55 PM
I only become a nit-picker if I dont like the book.. If I like it, I forgive everything. http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif

Keyoke

 

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