[saintjon]

BEWARE O READER! HERE THERE BE GEORGE MARTIN SPOILERS!!

Okay, I'm almost done Storm of Swords, but last night it was getting very hard to read. It's such a painful story. Man, how much will the Starks (the ones who aren't dead anyway) have to go through before they finally get some payback? I mean, I've been mentally howling for vengeance since they killed Eddard, and it just goes on and on. After the Red Wedding I was sitting there thinking,"At this rate, they'll have to kill half the damn kingdom to get revenge"! I'm finding the parts about Arya riding around with the disenfranchised Hound to be very cool though. Reminds me of that movie The Professional. Anyhoo, how long is the list now? The Lannisters, the Freys, Littlefinger, Varys, Arya's litany... it's ludicrous! I'm at the point where I'm hoping Daenerys shows up and just flattens the whole damn kingdom. I'm also waiting for Arya to grow old and rejoin her wolf so she can rain death on everyone.
Damn Freys.

[ChrisW]

The dead Starks are the stupid ones. No great loss there. You actually like Daenerys? ewwww http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif

[saintjon]

There's a difference between strength of character and stupidity.

[ChrisW]

How was it smart of Rob to agree to marry one of the freys and then go and marry someone else and then expect the freys to welcome him with open arms? Where is the strength of character in that???

[Eventine]

I believe saintjon was referring to Eddard.

[Asraloth]

what's wrong with daenerys, she rocks.

sure its a bit weird suckling dragons at her teet, but she's still a good character.

[saintjon]

I was referring to Eddard. As for Robb, well it wasn't smart hooking up with Jeyne. His compassion left him with no choice but to marry her though, and the war left him no choice but to take what the Freys offered. He knew damn well what he was getting himself into, but his heart meant more to him than his head. Would you rather he'd tried to attack King's Landing, who would have had him outnumbered 10 to 1? If you ask me that would have been much stupider than resolving to do whatever it takes to return home and save those who depend on you most. The simple fact remains: what's a king without a kingdom?

[Eventine]

What's a kingdom without any subjects?

A lot of people must have died with Robb - there can't be that many people left in the North now.

[Midus]

I want more of them to die http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/wink.gif. Martin's device of following the Stark family is getting awkward by book three. It was a great way to lead the reader into Kingslanding but since then the focus of the plot has shifted. Bran and Rickon could have died in truth as far as the rest of the plot is concerned, and Arya's 500 pages of running in cricles is little better. The 'child on a quest' bits don't seem to fit with the rest of the book.


Anyone else think that Jon Snow is the child of Rheagar Targaryen and Eddard's sister? Somehow he, Daenrays, and Tyrion are going to end up being the 3 heads of the dragon. I doubt Martin would kill of his favorite character before throwing him that bone.

[ChrisW]

So what you are saying is Robb put his personal feelings before that of his kingdom? That makes him an idiot and a bad king http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif.

Oh and Daenrays is a sick twisted little girl.

I liked Tyrion in the first two books but in the third I really didnt like him at all. Shooting his daddy on the potty was the last straw for me.

[This message has been edited by Caldazar (edited February 28, 2002).]