[Chainzen]

B.G. Miller here to apologize for my foolish protests from before. I am truly sorry that I would go that far to get you guys to accept Heroseed as a professional novel. But I am here to beg for your forgiveness. Heroseed is my first novel, and I removed nearly all the mistakes during my own editing process, since I did not have the money to have a professional edit it. And I am a little mad at Outskirts Press for making my book so high. I originally wanted it to be $9.99, but that won't happen anytime soon. I am currently broke, and revisions of any kind cost over $200.

Even though there are the occasional mistakes in Heroseed, you most likely won't notice them unless you are a hard core critic who looks for them for fun. Heroseed is written in present/past tense. I just write it depending on the mood I'm in. Heroseed is written like a movie script, as well as a children's book at times. Profanity, blood, gore, violence, alcohol, and sensuality are throughout this book, so don't be fooled by the way I write. I write to attract all audiences, even if you happen to be underage, you will find this story fasinating.

Allow me to try again and become friends with all of you. Hi! I'm B.G. Miller and I just published a novel known as Heroseed! It is a tale of galactic battles and planetary struggle. A man known as Angelo Juno, and his team Zeravega, must stop the alien murderer Chainzen from destroying the earth. The must use the elements, as well as the Sacred Arts to train for the battle. As they try to rebuild their world, Zeravega are interrupted by the tyrants known as Black Pegasus.

Thier are action-filled fights, heroism, love, sadness, life/death situations, and a storyline with twists and turns around every corner. I am currently writing Heroseed II - Memories of the Fallen Angel. The storyline is complete, and it will be a finale to the two stories contained in the first book. Heroseed is my current obsession, filled with angels, demons, and realms unlike anything seen before, I hope Heroseed can captivate you, just like it did to me! Check out shelfari.com/heroseed and look for my story! There, you will learn all I can teach you without giving away crutial secret information. Have fun!

[tmso]

Hello Mr. Miller,

If I may be so bold as to offer some suggestions...

Even though there are the occasional mistakes in Heroseed [plural/singular issue, either: there are occasional mistakes in Heroseed or there is the occasional mistake in Heroseed], you most likely won't notice them unless you are a hard core critic who looks for them for fun. Heroseed is written in present/past tense. I just write it depending on the mood I'm in. [But wait, this isn't the story, right? So, you've already written it, right? So why use present tense here? It's just confusing.] Heroseed is written like a movie script, as well as a children's book at times. Profanity, blood, gore, violence, alcohol, and sensuality are throughout this book, so don't be fooled by the way I write. I write to attract all audiences, even if you happen to be underage, you will find this story fasinating [fascinating].

Allow me to try again and become friends with all of you. Hi! I'm B.G. Miller and I just published a novel known as Heroseed! It is a tale of galactic battles and planetary struggle. A man known as Angelo Juno, and his team Zeravega, must stop the alien murderer Chainzen from destroying the earth. The [they] must use the elements, as well as the Sacred Arts [comma] to train for the battle. As they try to rebuild their world, Zeravega are [you are referring to the 'team', right? then it should be singular, is not are] interrupted by the tyrants known as Black Pegasus.

Thier [There] are action-filled fights, heroism, love, sadness, life/death situations, and a storyline with twists and turns around every corner. I am currently writing Heroseed II - Memories of the Fallen Angel. The storyline is complete, and it will be a finale to the two stories contained in the first book. Heroseed is my current obsession, filled with angels, demons, and realms unlike anything seen before,[run-on sentence, I would suggest splitting it here] I hope Heroseed can captivate you, just like it did to me! Check out shelfari.com/heroseed and look for my story! There, you will learn all I can teach you without giving away crutial [crucial] secret information. Have fun!

I wish you the best of luck with your writing efforts. (By the way, I didn't look for the mistakes, they jumped right out at me.)

[MrBF1V3]

Youll have to excuse us chainzen, we do a lot of critiquing here and sometimes learn to find our own mistakes--though Im still not convinced there is a right and perfect way to approach an agent or a publisher. Your best offense is to have a well written psychotically edited grab you by the neck and wont let you go till you find out what happens kind of story.

And even then, the odds are against you.

Good luck.

B5

[shevdon]

Hi Chainzen,

Welcome back to the forum. I must admit that I am a little confused by your post. You start with an apology for promoting your self-edited novel, but then proceed to promote your novel again. You claim that it is suitable for minors, but then explain that it contains violence, gore and profanity. You claim that your writing has been revamped, but then tell us it is simply recycled. You see why I am confused?

Your focus seems to be on promoting your existing novel in a forum which is focussed on improving writing skills. At the same time, your post is fraught with the sort of errors that this forum is aimed at eliminating, prompting tmso's response

May I suggest you're either in the wrong place or coming at this the wrong way? If you want to improve your writing and you want help, then this is the place to be. I am sure there are people who will assist you in improving the quality of your written work. If you want to share your successes and disappointments then this is a good place to do that. There are threads specifically for that purpose.

But if you simply want to promote your work then you're either going to become a lot more subtle about it or start paying for advertising space. There are even threads here about how you might go about promoting your work, some of which you might benefit from reading.

While I appreciate that money may be tight, there is a huge amount of advice and knowledge available free to anyone with an internet connection. There are writing and critique groups (including this one) who will help you for the pleasure and experience of doing it. There are grammar guides and spell-checkers, all free for the asking.

It does take effort, though, and it's not easy. That's why forums like this exist to provide mutual support and encouragement. Perhaps you should reconsider your approach to the forum in the light of that.

All the best.

[Tim_Seraphim]

This may seem a bit harsh, but why would anyone want to read a novel from someone who can't write a post without errors? That's like listening to music by people who don't know how to play their instruments. Granted, bands like this exist, and some are even successful, and as most people here are more than likely writers in their own right, you're going to get judged on your writing.

By the by, what kind of publisher publishes a book filled with errors?

[Holbrook]

By the by, what kind of publisher publishes a book filled with errors?

A Vanity Press, which Outskirts Press is; or a self publish outlet
http://www.outskirtspress.com/

And we have been down this path with the author before.:rolleyes:

[Chainzen]

Who cares if a post is perfect or not? I just jot down what I have to say, and move on. I don't use grammer and spell checker for something like this. I could care less. I'm just a little fed up with everything I say being ridiculed by you guys. I think it's time to avoid this section of the forums all together.

[tmso]

Hey Chainzen,

My apologies for coming across so harsh. In my defense, I corrected your post because it didn't seem like a post where you were just dropping by to say 'hi'. Your post sounded like a pitch, as if you are/were promoting your book.

If you are just saying 'hi', then great. So happy that you have your book out. Must feel good to be working on the second volume. Good luck. :)

[tdnewton]

"Oh no," I said aloud when I saw this topic, "not again."

Chainzen, we can appreciate what you're trying to do, which is to promote a project that you believe in. Unfortunately, you're going about it the wrong way. The posters in this forum are far less critical than you'll see elsewhere, I promise, whether or not you feel they/we are ridiculing you. The fact that you're so offensively cavalier about writing a book with errors, more accurately about writing without caring about the quality of what you produce (thereby just assuming it's a masterpiece and requiring everyone else to believe the same) is exactly what elicits this kind of response.

We attempted to help you in the first topic you posted. While it's nice to apologize and re-introduce yourself once that topic has fallen off the front page, approaching us with the same attitude as before is probably not going to win you any friends. You're not going to pique anyone's interest on the forums by being rude and unapproachable, you're only going to piss people off.

I sympathize that you're broke, and that you invested a lot of time and money into a project that isn't taking off like you hoped. All of us have had problems getting our projects off the ground, whether it was starting them, finishing them, or selling them. You may not realize that you're minimizing our struggles by saying you left your "occasional errors" in (despite what I'm sure was a rigorous editing process), but that's exactly what you're doing.

All that said, welcome back to the forums. Enjoy your stay.

[Chainzen]

Listen, and I want all of you to hear this. I am not trying to be rude with any of you. I came on this forum to talk about my book. I came to talk amongst other authors. I wanted to see your opinions of my book. But it just seems like you've been giving me negative feedback since the very beginning. I'm not fighting with any of you, and Heroseed is doing fairly well on Tower.com, which I think is a minimal success. But it's a good start. I just want to talk about stories with fellow authors. I apologize again for my repetative arguements, but I'm a very stubborn person, and for that I am sorry.

I entered the publishing world knowing all-too-well that it was a very tough and concrete plateau. I know that there will be the good times, and the bad. But I just want to talk. Heroseed is published. It's out on the internet. I have no way to edit it again. That is why I'm so defensive. In terms of editting, I have no more part in the first Heroseed. I worked extremely hard on this book. I don't have the kind of money to get somebody to professional edit my book. I am sad that Heroseed wasn't published with my entire ambition, but I didn't have the money to "perfect" it. Just enjoy it for what it is. That's all I'm asking.