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juzzza
August 1st, 2002, 04:45 PM
On the LOTR documentary I have, Liv Tyler says that loads of people can actually speak Tolkien's Elvish language and there is actually a helpline if you can't pronounce something!!!
Is this true, can anyone speak Elvish in this forum.
How delightful!!! :D
Miriamele
August 1st, 2002, 05:14 PM
I certainly can't speak Elvish myself but it is true that some people can.
I find it incredible that Tolkien was able to create an entire language from scratch, and a beautiful-sounding one at that. He was a very intelligent man.
Mithfânion
August 1st, 2002, 06:19 PM
On the LOTR documentary I have, Liv Tyler says that loads of people can actually speak Tolkien's Elvish language
Well if you want a serious answer to that I would have to say Tyler is a bit full of it.
You see, there are some people who can speak Elvish, but then that's really not too hard if you've learned the pronouncements for a couple of weeks and you can read it off a paper.
However there are nil-to very very few people who can actually speak it. I know some folks from Elfling (Tolkien language society) and I don't think anyone can speak Elvish without a written text handy.
So, if your question is, can people pronounce Elvish? Then yes. Can people memorize a couple of lines? Yup, should be possible? Can people speak it, as a real language? No. Because there's not enough material to form a sufficient language, and besides, people have to consult their paperwork all the time.
Miriamele
August 1st, 2002, 06:44 PM
Good points M.
Jon Shannow
August 1st, 2002, 10:51 PM
This is prob. going to be a bit confused but here goes.
Maybe a year or year and a half ago I read an article in Time about a province in Russia, in a very economicly depressed area where Tolkien was very popular. Their were loads of Tolkien events and party's and Iam sure that somewhere in the peice it was mentioned that this provence had more Elvish speakers than anywhere else in the world. The main point of the story was that educated people in a previously wealthy area had esaped into Middle-Earth when thier world came tumbling down and it was full of psyco babble by experts explaining why this came about it did not realy dwell on what the Tolkienists (as they were called) did.
Shanoncia
August 1st, 2002, 11:16 PM
I have the entire manuscript of the Sindarin language but have yet found time to study it. I know a little but am certainly not fluent. I suppose it's a vain hope that some dashing sindarin elvin prince like Legolas will come to me in this industrious hell called modern civilization so I won't need it really. :rolleyes: However I can see myself speaking it in a year or two because I've gotten back into it with the new movie coming out and all.
However you might be interested to know I have created a secret language for the novels I'm writing! It's the ancient language of the my high elves (which are similar to tolkiens elves but different at the same time in some very big ways). The language though is only partially revealed in trace amounts through out the story and only certain persons I deduct to be worthy shall learn it completely. :)
Vil vuric lai gaven aye delil. Ilront
milamber_reborn
August 2nd, 2002, 12:59 AM
Same to you :)
ChrisW
August 2nd, 2002, 05:05 AM
Shanoncia looks likes she's a Goth!
Shimrod
August 2nd, 2002, 06:17 AM
Yes I know, it's stolen but this sure sounds elfish:
Are you lonesome tonight,
do you miss me tonight?
Are you sorry we drifted apart?
Does your memory stray to a brighter sunny day
When I kissed you and called you sweetheart?
Do the chairs in your parlor seem empty and bare?
Do you gaze at your doorstep and picture me there?
Is your heart filled with pain, shall I come back again?
Tell me dear, are you lonesome tonight?
Mithfânion
August 2nd, 2002, 06:21 AM
Shanonica, any samples of your story yet?
And thanks Miriamele :)
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