[Thom]

I just finished Ship of Destiny and Amber really intrigues me. I'm not 100% sure who she is. /possible spoiler
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I was thinking that she was the Fool in Farseer or someone very similar. Can anybody back me up or prove me wrong.

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[ChrisW]

Yep she is.

[Mamb]

yes you're right.

I think that Amber carves Paragon in Fitz's image, which is evidence for the link.

Also, the fool in Fool's Errand speaks of how he got rich in Bingtown

[Evil Agent]

Actually, I just finished Ship of Destiny today as well.

There were lots of clues about Amber/Fool, but I think I had already read part of a spoiler by accident, so I always kind of knew.

Hints:
-Amber carving Paragon in Fitz's image (including broken nose)
-Amber instructing Althea on how to act and move like a man
-People calling her a "fool" several times, and her saying cryptic things like"you are more right than you know!"
-Amber wearring Fitz's old earring/Carving a similar earring for Paragon
-Amber carving charging bucks into Paragon's axe (Fitz's symbol was a charging buck and he used an axe)
-Amber finding the rooster crown, which she saw in a vision in Assassin's Quest
-And many more that I can't remember right now. Hobb kind of hit you over the head with it in the end, but it was still awesome.

What I find interesting is this:
I haven't yet read the Tawny Man, but in the first Farseer trilogy I was pretty sure the Fool was really a man. Then in the early parts of the Liveship Traders series I thought she was still a man, just disguising as a woman, Amber. By the end, I think I realized that the Fool really is a woman, more like Amber, and was in love with Fitz through the whole Farseer series, even though Fitz was clueless. The coolest thing about this is when I remember the conversation Fitz and the Fool had about this at the end of Assassin's Quest, when Serene declared that the Fool was female. Fitz and the Fool basically laughed about that, and the Fool (I think) made a vague reference to his own male genetalia, and how he might have to "whip it out" to prove it to Serene. Considering the Fool was a woman, that was GENIUS!

What does everyone else think?

[Iskaral Pust]

I was never sure if the fool was a woman or not, the Liveship Trilogy confirms it

[Vladimir]

or perhaps the fool is just good at playing a woman.. I still think he's both or neither ;)

[Stark Direwolf]

edit: nm I figured it out :)

The references to fitz chivalry were a great touch though, even though I didnt realize Amber was the fool (I puzzled for ages over her identity, I though she was some character id forgotten out of farseer)

[OgreWolf]

Damn, I read Liveship before reading Farseer. So I don't remember Liveship very well. Kind of spoils my experience of reading Tawny Man. Perhaps anyone can help. Was Amber the woman who had the shop in bingtown or something. i think I have to re-read Liveship. Argh! So frustrating. I'm in the middle of Golden Fool right now.

Anyone/anything else I should know about, that I have so aptly forgotten, to enhance my experience of the Tawny Man trilogy?

[Chlestron]

Yes, Amber was a woodcarver who specialized in wizard wood and had a shop in Bingtown. She also re-carved Paragon's face and knew significantly more about what was really going on with the ships and the Rainriver wilds than anybody else, but she either wouldn't or couldn't talk about it.