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Keyoke
August 16th, 2002, 05:10 PM
Has anyone read this author? I've seen his books about, but, no one seems to mention him. I've read some reviews, and it seems to be a interesting set of books.
Thanks. :)
Keyoke
Elan Morin Tedronai
August 17th, 2002, 08:05 AM
Never heard of him. The only Pinto I've ever heard is Ricardo Sa Pinto the soccer player of Portugal. Other Pinto is Joao Pinto who is also soccer player of Portugal.:D
Seriosly if the author is so good I gotta find something about 'im.
kegasaurus
August 18th, 2002, 12:36 AM
I can't believe no ones read Pinto (And I don't mean you Nevyn)
Ricardo Pinto's 'Stone Dance of the Chameleon' is an excellent read by an author who is starting to climb his way through the fantasy genre. His descriptions and world building are both detailed, causing the images to jump through your mind, coming alive with the fervacity of a new born child, yet without the info dumps that would pull a book into the realms of boring.
The story revolves around Carnelian, son of an exiled master, who was raised on the safe confines of an out of the way island. The peace, and Carnelians life, are both shattered when three other 'masters' appear, ending the exile that has kept the two master's live's free from the encumbrances of the strict rules the master's and inferior races have to live by. Carnelian is then introduced to the true emaning of being a master and we get to see his struggles to come to terms with his lot in life.
Pinto's worlkd has an eastern feel to it and is based around a caste sytem. Carnelian is far from the typical hero (well he ahs been thus far) and I would highly recommend anyone to read these books.
The only problem I encontered was that every now and then Pinto would use a staccato writing style to describe a situation, though this was rare, it still scratched th eblackboard.
Series not finished, but get out and start it now.
Mithfânion
August 18th, 2002, 06:35 AM
Actually I didn't like or finish the first book. I had some trouble with the descriptions of the sex scenes (or simply sexually tainted scenes) between the two male gay characters.
I'm serious, I didn't like that at all. It got bothersome.
kegasaurus
August 18th, 2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Mithfânion
Actually I didn't like or finish the first book. I had some trouble with the descriptions of the sex scenes (or simply sexually tainted scenes) between the two male gay characters.
I'm serious, I didn't like that at all. It got bothersome.
I believe, though don't qouate me on this, that Ricardo Pinto is gay na dit does come through in his writing. Carnelian is gay, but the only scene that even remotely comes close to being sexual is at the end. At the start Carnewlian sleeps (not sexually) with his brother and I assume this is what made Mithfânion so uncomfortable.
Mithfânion
August 19th, 2002, 07:01 AM
As I said,it's more the hints at it, and the sexual tension I felt was most certainly there in the book. In this case I was none too pleased with it.
It's a matter of personal preference really, it's not a judgment on the actual writing style or the plot.
whitebelly
August 19th, 2002, 12:40 PM
In any case, he has a very cool, sober but professional website (no useless clutter or blah blah) which made me think he's serious about his business: www.ricardopinto.com
Good review on sfsite.com as well this fortnight.
Sexual tension eh?
Steven Savile
August 19th, 2002, 04:46 PM
I believe I heard somewhere that his Pinto suffered the sales kiss of death when it came out that his characters were homosexual and that he himself was - which I think is terribly sad. A fine writer is a fine writer, peroid.
Mithfânion
August 19th, 2002, 05:27 PM
Perhaps the world is ready to accept homosexuality, but not as willing to actually read about it's aspects in Fantasy books?
Willingness to accept doesn't equal enjoyment as I'm sure you know :)
Hobbit
August 19th, 2002, 07:29 PM
..to quote from a recent review of The Standing Dead, the second book in the trilogy from SFX Magazine:
"..it is beautifully written; it is challengingly complicated; it is highly original; and it is very, very gay."
Though I've got to be honest and say that most of their reviews I treat as poor or at best ill informed, the comment does seem to summarise what has been said here.
It sounds like quite a brave series to me, though I can see why it may not cater for all tastes. :)
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