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Just read The Sparrow and The Children of God. This is my first time posting something here. I originally clicked "quote", whereas I wanted to actually reply as part of the book club discussion. I redid this post under the book club discussion.

P.S. How is "quote" intended to be used?

Thanks!

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A friend heard I liked SF and told me about this book. She told me the author included a strong spiritual element. I read it and really liked it. I liked it even more after reading the sequel, [I]Children of God.[I]

1) I think the book was originally marketed as a non-genre novel, because the author did not necessarily consider it to be SF. She wanted to explore a topic (the impact on faith of something personally devastating happening to a person of faith), and found the science fiction setting especially suitable; but it wasn't the . . . source of her story. She was exploring spiritual struggle more than she was exploring first contact. I think when a story originates from the basis of a science fiction concept, then it is a science fiction story first and foremost. But I think a story can have a science fiction setting, without originating from a science fiction concept. When the author feels the thrust of her story exists apart from the setting, then I think it is a non-genre story.

2) I found her use of alternating time frames very effective. It not only built the anticipation to discover what had happened to Emilio, it also helped to emphasize the depth of the impact of that "event". To spend so much time alternating between the "before" Emilio and the "after" Emilio brought the alteration in Emilio into sharp focus.

3) I think the quote is a really good expression of Emilio's path. The book expresses so well that outermost limit of faith--the questions that haunt and oppress--and the devastation of despair that follows the loss on the very thing that has been interwoven into the very fabric of your being. The loss of all certainty and confidence in what is truth. To be faced with a whole new reality that contains none of the positive assurances of the reality that has just been rent from you.

4) I saw several replies that saw the cutting of Emilio's hands to be symbolic of Christ's crucifixion. I see it more as a physical metaphor for what is happening spiritually. The pain. The initial permission without understanding of what was being agreed to. The helplessness to fix or resolve. This was a permanent change that could only be adapted to--could only be survived or adjusted to. Things could never go back--never be the same. Both were permanent injuries that would "heal" but the things which healed (his hands and faith?) would never function in the same way. His perspectives on faith and physical health would forever be from a far different place.

5) I don't tend to be analytical enough to have even noticed this one! I've always viewed stories that explored human culture encountering and interacting with an alien culture to be science fiction; so this book falls well within what is familiar for me. The biggest surprise for me was the thought of using meteors as space ships.

6) I think a significant difference is the make up of the crew. This book wasn't intended as a spoof, yet the idea of a crew being developed as this one was seems the most far-fetched aspect of the story.

7) Oh, I agree whole-heartedly that the book wouldn't have worked nearly so well if her characters hadn't been so easy to accept and identify with. As a continuation of my response to the last question, if she hadn't succeeded so well with each of the individuals that made up this crew I think the story would have been . . . more narrow-minded? What I mean is that an idea would have been presented wrapped in a fictional device, rather than the story becoming an experience lived out by the reader and responded to from their own frame of reference.

8) I think it was handled . . . authentically? Since she was considering the impact on someone's active faith of an event of the magnitude of surviving the Nazi concentration camps, it had to be something personally devastating; and I think that sexuality is a core issue when faith is attached to the God of the Bible. I think the fact that Emilio's chastity was a central element of his relationship with God made the rape the deepest cut into his most vulnerable connection. I find Emilio's reactions feel authentic. Another reason I didn't find the violence or sexuality compromising the more philosophical and spiritual aspects of the novel was that the author did not in any way sensationalize the event that was the pivot for Emilio. Everything included was with effective intent and purpose.

9) Faith can be in many things--not just in God. People can rely on friends, money, careers, or various causes for their sense of purpose and worth. Their faith in these things can be betrayed deeply. From that basis I think just about everyone can appreciate the sense of betrayal and struggle portrayed in this book.

10) This book was a 10 for me.

[expatrie]

P.S. How is "quote" intended to be used?

Thanks!

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Welcome to the site.

(on a note related to the topic here, I have a review of The Sparrow up on goodreads. Root around here and you should find my account somewhere.)

Ah, heck. It's here. (http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/4605127?shelf=currently-reading)

Generally, if you hit quote to posts with strange features, the site will show you what all those codes are, like spoilers.

sample spoiler.

But you do have to close the tags with the /. That's why your Italics of the title aren't working in your post.

What's really nice with some of the tags is you can highlight and hit a keystroke to format it (works with control-I to italicize).

--Brian.

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Sorry, I'm somewhat computer illiterate. I tried selecting part of your reply and then clicking quote; but when I did your entire answer was included, not just the portion I had selected. ?

Second, I don't follow what you were trying to explain about "having to close the tags with the /". When I to use the italics I see the . . . editorial markings? . . . included--those should translate to that word being italicized in the post shouldn't it? I thought I understood what you suggested regarding the keyboard shortcut, but when I tried it I was unsuccessful. ? (I saw that I was successful using the italics this time.)

Thanks for the response to my post; I did check in on your review as was glad to see you gave it four stars. I came across the site by accident, and am looking forward to being more involved!

Susan