[kassimir funk]

How did Mtv turn into the bastion of shallowness that it is?

I used to watch MTV religiously when I was growing up. Back when they still played music. Back when they weren't so pretentious as to exalt themselves as the "voice of the young generation".

I think that Mtv has turned into a complete monster. They assail America's youth with completely worthless, superficial, sex laden CRAP! Their channel is now filled with "reality" shows wherein they take otherwise idiotic, though attractive, people, and put them on TV. This gives these morons the opportunity to be truly full of themselves. You can get more self righteous psychobabble from one hour of MTV's real world, than many people get in their lives.

MTV has almost completely killed the music scene in this country. At least, as far as mass market is concerned. If you're not Jenifer Lopez, you ain't gettin any airtime buddy. I don't care if you got the best band since the Beatles. But in the off chance that you do... you had better play something dark and stupid or sappy and remorseful because if it doesn't get a 13 yr old's attention, they don't want it.

I could go on for hours on many other aspects of MTV("educational programs", political affiliations, propoganda)

Anyhow feel free to rant. I would especially like to hear a young person's perspective on this.

I miss "Headbanger's Ball" dammit.

Da Funk

[Cygnus]

I stopped watching MTV years ago because of many of the things Kass mentioned and more. Just a factory of crappy music and teen stupidity with maybe one music video a day.. and it's a rap video!

For my rock needs I watch MTV2, at least when I used to have it (sob!) It is a wonderful station that really does play just music videos. VH1 has that a show hosted by that guy from Anthrax.. just called the Rock Show. Sadly it's only 30 minutes long.

I miss 120 Minutes dammit!

[Kamakhya]

I would especially like to hear a young person's perspective on this.

Ok...I'm not young. I remember when MTV came out. My brothers and I begged my parents to get this channel and they did within the first year or two of its debut. I loved the garage band series. They didn't have commercials or shows or anything like that. They just played a wide variety of music videos, including a large amount of new and "avante-garde" stuff. Sometime in the mid to late 80's, they just went for pop culture and the profit that reaps and I stopped watching.

[Blizzaurel]

Well, I'm 16, so I guess that's young. I actually watched MTV alot when I was 12-13, it seemed really cool and Carson Daly was *so hot*. But now he just looks like a washed up GAP model and the shows suck.

Sometimes if I'm really tired I flip it on just to relax because it's so idiotic. But mostly I watch VH1, since my favorite bands are NOT recent.

A lot of people I know watch the Real World. That's pretty much it.

If they play Shakira, though, I'm there!!

[Gamlemshagen]

M.T.V.-Get Off The Air

Fun Fun Fun in the fluffy chair
Flame up the herb
Woof down the beer
[click!]
Hi
I'm your video DJ
I always talk like I'm wigged out on quaaludes
I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I go

My job is to help destroy
What's left of your imagination
By feeding you endless doses
Of sugar-coated mindless garbage

So don't create
Be sedate
Be a vegetable at home
And thwack on that dial
If we have our way even you will believe
This is the future of rock and roll

How far will you go
How low will you stoop
To tranquilize our minds with your sugar-coated swill

You've turned rock and roll rebellion
Into Pat Boone sedation
Making sure nothing's left to the imagination

M.T.V. Get off the
M.T.V. Get off the
M.T.V. Get off the air
Get off the air

See the latest rejects from the muppet show
Wag their tits and their dicks
As they lip-synch on screen
There's something I don't like
About a band who always smiles
Another tax write-off
For some schmuck who doesn't care

M.T.V. Get off the air
And so it was
Our beloved corporate gods
Claimed they created rock video
Allowing it to sink as low in one year
As commercial TV has in 25
"It's the new frontier," they say
It's wide open, anything can happen
But you've got a lot of nerve
To call yourself a pioneer
When you're too god-damn conservative
To take real chances.

Tin-eared
Graph-paper brained accountants
Instead of music fans
Call all the shots at giant record companies now

The lowest common denominator rules
Forget honesty
Forget creativity
The dumbest buy the mostest
That's the name of the game

But sales are slumping
And no one will say why
Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!?

M.T.V.-Get off the air!
NOW

[Zsinj16]

Yes, with the way MTV's going, the leader of the corporation might as well be the devil himself!! http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif
You know what I honestly think. I think that fantasy metal should grow in popularity and get a much wider fan-base so that one glorious day, it would perhaps rule the airwaves and drive pop-music and all it's demonic servants back to the abyss from whence they came. http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif
And thus the Dark Queen of pop (you know the one I speak of, I dare not speak her true name http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif ) will hold no more power within this plane of existence! http://www.sffworld.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Zsinj16 (edited April 03, 2002).]