[Loras Tyrell]

Ok, I have realized, eventually, that these forums do not tolerate any kind of negative opinions on anybody.

So instead of giving your overzealous mods more work, I'll rather ask if anyone knows a place to go where you can speak your mind (or write it, preferrably)?

I especially have some invectives in store for Goodkind (whom one of the mods on this very forum takes delight in referring to as NoGoodkind, but I guess that doesn't count).

I am thick-skinned, and will suffer immeasurable amounts of abuse (if you play, you pay, right?).

Anyone know of anything?

This is actually an attempt from my side to take my more emotional alter egos and let them discharge in other fora, so I would appreciate it if you didn't make up some reason to close it down.

Greetings
Artaxiad

[fluffy bunny]

There's a fineline between criticising an author and openly attacking him/her. I'm sorry if you feel hard done by, but we try to be fair to both parties.

If you must find somewhere to rant in a non-censored environment you can always try the official forum:

http://www.terrygoodkind.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1
(though I'm not sure what their response would be)

As for the rest, type 'Terry Goodkind' and forums into google. Good luck with your quest.

[Julian]

Originally posted by fluffy bunny
I'm sorry if you feel hard done by, but we try to be fair to both parties.


A sentiment I, for one, heartily agree with!

[Nevyn]

Why bother ? What could you possibly hope to gain ?

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[Loras Tyrell]

Is that question for me?

What I could possibly hope to gain?

Several things.

1. I could find an outlet for my aggression an be a nicer, happier person.

2. I can maybe sway some into buying something else (anything else) than Goodkind (The list of ingredients on my spaghetti is more suspense-filled, not to mention better written).

3. I can find like-minded individuals to laugh with at his and others' poor writing.

Greetings
Artaxiad

[Kaz]

Ye know, it's rather sad that you cannot seem to distance your RL happiness from what goes on in an online forum. If you feel so strongly about Goodkins or anyone else why not just start a site of your own where you can author bash to your heart's content? The fact remains that there are people who like Goodkind's work and probably wouldn't be swayed by your opinion anyway, so continuously ranting on about it will like achieve nought but peeing them off - not because they feel some weird urge to protect him, but probably because they don't like having to justify why they like someone and certainly because they don't like being preached to about other authors being better. Personal taste is a funny thing that way. If you don't like an author, good and well, it's your perogative. But you don't need to be dismissive about the guy or his work just because it doesn't fall in your taste.

BTW, if you are so eager to laugh at other's poor writing, just keep in mind that they have been published, so someone considered them good enough to give them that chance. The number of books they have sold indicate that there are many people who enjoy their work. Are you saying your opinion is more vald than their's just because you happen to dislike the authors?

Anyway, hope you find what your are looking for and that the online bashing of successful writers brings you much happiness IRL :rolleyes:

[ChrisW]

Join the aSoIaF ezyboard. They encourage bashing Goodkind,Brooks,Jordan,Eddings etc over there:).

I'd advise against stating your opinion of Goodkind on his official forum as they tend to ban you if you are just there to rant about him.

[Loras Tyrell]

Kaz, you just don't get it.

I'm not about to waste very much time or space trying to explain to you what it is you don't get. Let's just say that although you might like Goodkind, he probably won't like you (judging from his interviews). He says that this relativism is the source of all evil, and that there are some things that are good and others that are evil. So far, I'm with him. Then he goes on to say that USA, capitalism, Ayn Rand and himself are the manifestations and incarnations of good in the world, while communism, islam and people who disagree with him are the opposite.

But I digress. My point is, I believe that some things are objectively better than others. I believe in concepts of quality and absolutes. And I believe that I am better equipped than most to judge.

I'm probably gonna get flamed and bashed for saying this. I don't care.

Besides, there's a difference between an author not being to your liking and one (not mentioning any names) sucking so hard the oceans are in danger of drying up.

Take Stephen R. Donaldson, for instance. I tried reading him, but it just wasn't working for me. But I recognize that this is a consequence of my personal tastes and preferences, and not a result of bad writing. The writing was good, there isn't anything I can point out (plot, characters, pace, depth) that made me dislike the book, it just wasn't the book for me. Goodkind's writing is another story. Filled to the brim with poor language, clumsy grammar, paper-thin characters, the worst dialogue ever, specualtive scenes, I could go on.

Bottom line: this guy doesn't write well enough to deserve publication. And high sales do not vouchsafe quality.

Looks like I spent some time and space after all. Probably wont make much of a difference, though.

And Caldazar: I found it, thanks. I operate under another nick, though, so people wont necessarily recognize me.

Greetings
Artaxiad

[kahnovitch]

Originally posted by Loras Tyrell
Is that question for me?

What I could possibly hope to gain?

Several things.

1. I could find an outlet for my aggression an be a nicer, happier person.

2. I can maybe sway some into buying something else (anything else) than Goodkind (The list of ingredients on my spaghetti is more suspense-filled, not to mention better written).

3. I can find like-minded individuals to laugh with at his and others' poor writing.

Greetings
Artaxiad

Loras you're not going to convert any Goodkind fans or fans of anything from whatever they love, it's the nature of fandom.
Finding an outlet for aggression probably won't work by slagging off the things/people you hate on public forums, as the fans will respond with the same vigour and venom and you'll end up throwing abuse at each other in a flame war which will be ultimately be a lot more frustrating than anything you're feeling now.
I've felt like I've been banging my head against a sharp rock many times in debates on forums, but it's the nature of arguements. They don't tend to resolve too much when nobody will budge.
I'm sure there are many like-minded individuals here who hate the same things you do, I have found a few good e-buddies on my travels.

If you want to get aggression out of your system, try a martial arts club or a decent action film, fighting game. (works for me).

Looking for fights on the internet is, by it's very nature, pointless.

[Loras Tyrell]

Kahn:

While I see your points and sympathize with them, I think you misunderstood me. I'm not looking for fights. I'm looking for a place where I can bash and flame to my heart's delight (or something).

I'm more in search of likeminded individuals who have seen these and other books for what they really are and aren't afraid to say so.

I enjoy arguments as well, mind you. The factual, serious discussions as well as the all-out flame wars. There's a time and a place for everything.

As this is obviously not the place, I'm simply asking you if you know of one(s) (and I have had several spot on-answers already). I'm not asking you to make me stop wanting to flame Goodkind or others.

Greetings
Artaxiad