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Drew
January 23rd, 2005, 09:43 PM
I have been trying to write and brainstorm on this current story and it is going nowhere.

I am just asking for some input. What is good? What is bad? What would you do in this situation? I just want to bounce some ideas off of you and the people around me are just not cynical enough! Your loved ones will tell you that everything is perfect and they can't wait to read it! :p

So here it is in brief summation:

Thousands of years ago, the first humans lived on Earth. They thrived for many years and obtained technology similar to our modern-day technology.b A great storm passed over (think Atlantis) that forced them out in a mass exodus. Since then, they have been returning, slowly trickling themselves back into society and trying to gain a foothold for their final return.

Private researcher (the guy that the police and the PIs go to for info digging) Ethan Wells crashes his car. Afterwards, he begins having hallucinations (though he believes them to be real) of a man urging him to investigate the crash leading him through a chain of coinsidences and finally bringing him around to the final answer-he is an alien designed to awaken the countless sleeper agents spread throughout.

Meh, needs some work!

Any comments/encouragements/flames?

Thanks in advance!

--Drew

TheEarCollector
January 23rd, 2005, 10:22 PM
Well Drew, you seem to have a pretty good idea of where you are going with this (do you know how you want to end it? If you don't, no biggie).

I don't have any suggestions as to what to put the character through, BUT:

Start writing, just go with it, you might end up pumping out some stuff you wouldn't have throught of if you just sat there and thought. It has helped me on several occasions.

Ward
January 23rd, 2005, 11:22 PM
well, he is a digger for information right? maybe you should work out what sources he can consult in the course of the tale that would further the storyline, ie. he has vague ideas and memories of his 'true self' that lead to a certain line of inquiry; a strange archaeological article he remembers reading leads him to track down its author, an odd police informer hints that not all is what it seems. maybe, just thinking about the sorts of things this guy can regularly do can give you enough to let you know how he will react to the strange realization of his origins (or suspected realization, surely he must think he's going a little mad right?).

and like the ear collector says sometimes you just have to write, pick one scene you can handle without knowign all the details of the plot and generate it: all the little nuances of character and incedental details that fall into place can lead you in new, unthought of, directions. sometimes you just need to start a few pebbles rolling before that avalanche kicks in.

Expendable
January 24th, 2005, 10:14 AM
I'm not sure I understand - is this researcher an extraterrestial alien or is he one of these ancient technologists whose been 'programmed' to access memories encoded in a special doubled strand of dna, passed through his line from the time of the destruction?

I can see the potential for personal conflict as this guy wrestles with his new identity. What he should do as a citizen of this country and as a member of this 'other' race. Others like him have to be aware he's waking up, possibly distant cousins as well as close relatives with some if not all the same memories.

Of course, the question becomes what would these agents do once they're awaken? If alien, they might have access to great technology but why implant agents in such a subtle way? If one of these ancient technologists, how much of their technology will have survived? And if its not overwealmingly superior to what we have now, what would be the point?

Isn't it possible that after several thousand years a good half of the population (if not more) might be carrying the genetic material of these anicent technologists? If these awakened people expect to take over, might they not find that some of their own are already in positions of power and not inclined to meekly hand it over? Unwilling to betray the humans they've befriended and lead?

your story has a lot of potential but I'm not sure we understand what it is you're looking for from us.

Drew
January 24th, 2005, 12:20 PM
I'm not sure I understand - is this researcher an extraterrestial alien or is he one of these ancient technologists whose been 'programmed' to access memories encoded in a special doubled strand of dna, passed through his line from the time of the destruction?

I can see the potential for personal conflict as this guy wrestles with his new identity. What he should do as a citizen of this country and as a member of this 'other' race. Others like him have to be aware he's waking up, possibly distant cousins as well as close relatives with some if not all the same memories.

Of course, the question becomes what would these agents do once they're awaken? If alien, they might have access to great technology but why implant agents in such a subtle way? If one of these ancient technologists, how much of their technology will have survived? And if its not overwealmingly superior to what we have now, what would be the point?

Isn't it possible that after several thousand years a good half of the population (if not more) might be carrying the genetic material of these anicent technologists? If these awakened people expect to take over, might they not find that some of their own are already in positions of power and not inclined to meekly hand it over? Unwilling to betray the humans they've befriended and lead?

your story has a lot of potential but I'm not sure we understand what it is you're looking for from us.

I'll try to clear this up a bit.

I sort of misworded myself. The aliens have been coming back for centuries in the form of UFOs, abductions, etc. not exactly trying to fit themselves in. They have been watching and researching us to see how we have evolved and form plans for their return.

The "hero" is not fully alien. He is half and half meaning that he has his own mind and he has a second mind inside of him, an implanted alien persona. The aliens have made this method by breeding with the humans. His mother was impregnated by an alien and then murdered after giving birth to our main character. His father was also supposedly murdered though I am thinking about addressing this as well.

The subtle invasion? Here is how I am thinking of it... The aliens have been embedding sleeper agents and slowly activating them. When activating, they don't just go nuts and start firing, their mind is taken over by the alien portion. They look and sounds the same, but they have new motives. These aliens are putting themselves in key places in society (judges, policemen, and so on).

The conflict first comes in when the hero crashes his car and accidentally jars his mind, awakening his sleeper side. He then sees his sleeper side as a hallucination, but remains in control of his human mind.

Make any sense at all?

I am just trying to decide if this is a good idea and something I should run with. I am sat down and forced out a few scenes, but I have a few very different drafts going right now.

JRMurdock
January 24th, 2005, 12:25 PM
Be wary of writting a novel based on Atlantis. You're delving into a topic that a good number of people know a lot about. Unless you're super-versed in Atlantian theory, I'd say steer clear or beef up your knowledge.

That being said, you've got an interesting premise. Perhaps you can do research yourself and include that researching into your work.

Expendable
January 24th, 2005, 02:22 PM
I agree with Maus99, try to avoid Atlantis unless you're prepared to start reading Plato.

Some of my stories have had implanted personalities - is this implant impersonal, an artificial creation designed to drive the normal personality into doing its bidding or does it take over? Or does it come from a real being, one with its own personality and memories?

Drew
January 24th, 2005, 04:02 PM
I was just using Atlantis as a familiar concept of a great storm. I am not planning to so much as include the word, but I plan to do some research on it anyhow just to get a clearer idea of such a great storm. ;)

About the half-alien, half-human, this is a working concept and something that I would like to get some help with.

The way I am thinking in my rough outline now is that the alien (and this would really debunk my alien/human mating idea, not that that is a bad thing) has implanted an artificial reality into the human's brain. This artificial being has the knowledge of the alien race, and has the ability to take control of the human's brain upon activation. It is like an incredibly persuasive AI to be honest.

Please keep the ideas coming guys! And don't take it any easier on me, Expendable. You are getting my mind flowing. Perhaps a little thinking during class tonight and I can begin to let the words flow this evening.

TheEarCollector
January 24th, 2005, 08:55 PM
Well if we are just going for ideas...

When I was little I hypothesized that humans were in fact the science fair experiments of an alien child gone wrong. They couldn't keep us there because we enjoyed breaking stuff too much and you can't just go around introducing new elements into your environment like that, so they plopped us down on this planet.
The reason for UFO sightings is that their scientists return to probe us, examining our evolutionary changes and observing our behavior. The only question then is why they choose to abduct only rednecks and members of low social classes, thus giving their research a skew and making their records slightly inaccurate.

Expendable
January 24th, 2005, 09:51 PM
Or maybe the UFOs are from our future where global warming and pollution has caught up with us. We're mutating from our own trash and a profound lack of an ozone layer. The only choice then to save humanity is to go back in time and collect various biological samples with which to rebuild the failing ecosystem and inject fresh material into the gene pool.

So they collect tissue samples and other um... materials.

And they pick rednecks and other isolated people because they're hopefully furthest away from the sources of pollution. Or hoping that nobody will believe them.