[Tari]

and yet in France, a survey was done that women are expected to either balance these roles (housework and work work) or just stay at home, and that if there was children, the father, in nine out of ten cases didnt help.

i think its stupid that anything is 'expected' off a gender, purely because of their gender. why cant we expect nothing that people try their hardest no matter what they apply themselves too..

Because society will NOT allow people to think against it! it's like an evil force that never sleeps! kind of scary . . . .lol. . . .

~ Tari

[danyl]

capitalism in its finest.
it sometimes make me sick-ish that this is the worl we live in.i watched Bowling for Columbine today and found it so sad whent he people were making the 911 calls. and then angry when the media's were phoning them as well to get the 'gossip'. damn them!

[Tari]

capitalism in its finest.
it sometimes make me sick-ish that this is the worl we live in.i watched Bowling for Columbine today and found it so sad whent he people were making the 911 calls. and then angry when the media's were phoning them as well to get the 'gossip'. damn them!

The media screws up everything!!!

Anyone have been working on an essay regarding violence and cultural groups. . .bassed on "Othello" and it is quite intersting. I've taken a cultural reding and realting to the "process of naturalism" Also comparing this to my essay on Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" it is interesting to see how different societies and status' of authors effects the styles and topics of books. both these books challenge gender and race and idealolgy so well. . . .Anyway just thought i'd share that lil discovery. . .

~ Tari

[danyl]

a question. . .
does anyone think the books would have the same appeal if the main character was a bloke?
i think no.
reasons:

feamle protagonists are just better
being a girl enables cartain things being a bloke doesnt.

um. . . any others? im all out :rolleyes:

[Tari]

a question. . .
does anyone think the books would have the same appeal if the main character was a bloke?
i think no.
reasons:

feamle protagonists are just better
being a girl enables cartain things being a bloke doesnt.

um. . . any others? im all out :rolleyes:

I've read a few fantasy's with male protagonists and i think one of the few things females can bring are pregnancy and menstrual cycles! lol. It depends on how the character is written to present themselves but men and women are both human and people forget that at times. They can bring the same things to a character - emotion, cunning, energy etc.

~ Tari

[danyl]

It depends on how the character is written to present themselves but men and women are both human and people forget that at times. They can bring the same things to a character - emotion, cunning, energy etc.

~ Tari

if the protagonist was like Cadvan, then fine.
but too many male leads are just fight, fight, fight, and then maybe a bit of thinking. that or they are the unwilling 'hero'.

[Tari]

if the protagonist was like Cadvan, then fine.
but too many male leads are just fight, fight, fight, and then maybe a bit of thinking. that or they are the unwilling 'hero'.

In that case then it's down to the way the writer protrays the character. I find males who are "fight fight fight" are boring and have no or little demension to them.

~ Tari

[danyl]

that is why women win hands down in fantasy :D
beacuse even if theyre wrote badly, they still have more depth than a badly written male protagonist :)

[Tari]

that is why women win hands down in fantasy :D
beacuse even if theyre wrote badly, they still have more depth than a badly written male protagonist :)

True. But like I said people just forget that guys have emotions too and because of the stereotypes of women - from being under patriarchy all these years - as weak and controlled by emotions it is easier - in theory - to embrace this accepted view and hence write a female protagonist.

~ Tari

[Silver Serpent]

yes but occassionaly you get a male author who can completly cast all other fantasy writers into the dark (male and female).males generally aren't able to capture the emotive side to the characters..females often aren't able to capture the males feeling-they make them too girly and soppy. (not Alison btw:) )