[danyl]

ooo.
someone other then me and Tari posting lol.
i agree with Silver Serpent. but also for some reason, i just find female protagonists more interesting. to a certain extent, i dont care about male ones. though i did care bout Muller in Charmed Sphere. (obvs. Harry Potter included :D)

[Tari]

yes but occassionaly you get a male author who can completly cast all other fantasy writers into the dark (male and female).males generally aren't able to capture the emotive side to the characters..females often aren't able to capture the males feeling-they make them too girly and soppy. (not Alison btw:) )

Thats true there are male fantasy authors who anhilate any competition - tolkein and pullman for example - in their specific sub genres but i dont totally believe in the male and female's unable to capture emotions of protagonists of the opposite gender. It is true in many cases unfortunately because of a lack of understanding between the genders - i believe so anyway.

Anywayz nice to see someone else posting other than myself and danyl. . . :)

~ Tari

[danyl]

Aye it is.

New question:

Would you rather see a woman succeed within a novel because of her brains and wit etc. or because she has powers given to her, by divine forces etc. ??

I'm thinking more of Tamora Pierce's Alanna when i saw divine powers, and not Maerad.

[Draoi]

hmmm... I kinda like the idea of a female winning out by being a strong person herself. However, I can not bear those totally feminist books that have heroines that are just sooooooooo capable, competant, self-reliant etc etc, that they become unrealistic characters. Ya for sure, go female rights, but you still have to factor in fate, accidents and other environmental factors in a realistic narrative.

You know, this is one of the first fantasy books written by a female author, and with a female protagonist, that i have actually not felt critical of. Perhaps though, this is because the fantasty genre is most often crossed with science fiction?

[Draoi]

A further note (sorry): I think maybe this is one of the reasons im not a Maerad/Cadvan shipper - I feel like Maerad doesnt need a romantic male atatchment to be a "real" woman, or complete her quest.;)

[ema]

A further note (sorry): I think maybe this is one of the reasons im not a Maerad/Cadvan shipper - I feel like Maerad doesnt need a romantic male atatchment to be a "real" woman, or complete her quest.;)

i can understand about Maerad not needing a man to rely on to complete her quest and i know that Alison's not writing a romantic book but sometimes its just nice to see two people in a book get together. i'm not a v.v.v. must get together Maerad and Cadvan shipper, but i think its quite sweet if they did get together. am i making sense?

[Tari]

New question:

Would you rather see a woman succeed within a novel because of her brains and wit etc. or because she has powers given to her, by divine forces etc. ??

I'm really to sick to explain this fully but I think either is interesting but a mixture of the two is always fun to read. Basically both are enjoyable it all depends on how well the character is written. Alot of other factors come into play of course to determine how a character succeeds and it's these factors - i belive - that make up the "worthiness" if you will of a novel.

~ Tari

[danyl]

^^^ Tari look! outsiders :eek: only joking.

I generally agree with Draoi. I hate it when author create a female charcter that can do or acheive anything. They are unrealistic and generally are derogatory rather than all for feminist rights. A character needs flaws for it to be interesting and believable.

I'm really to sick to explain this fully but I think either is interesting but a mixture of the two is always fun to read. Basically both are enjoyable it all depends on how well the character is written. Alot of other factors come into play of course to determine how a character succeeds and it's these factors - i believe - that make up the "worthiness" if you will of a novel.

~ Tari

hope you're ok :) and i agree with you. About the mix of both strangth of character and to a ceratin extent 'magic'.

[Dazzlinkat]

I hate it when author create a female charcter that can do or acheive anything.

I certainly agree with that, however, I feel that way about ANY character no matter the gender. I also dislike the characters that are portrayed as the classic damsel in distress. As for characters with extra abilities/powers/artifacts they are great as long as they aren't overly empowered.

I feel women authors delve far better into their characters than men authors, while men authors tend to focus more on the action/trinkets. Both, however, do about equally in delving into the plot.

[Silver Serpent]

I agree- I find that I completly detest the character if she is surviving solely because she has special powers-she has to have a bit of intelligence thrown in. They also need flaws (go danyl!)..it's what makes it work-you can ewlate to them...:rolleyes:

(I am in a really wierd mood today-i keep snapping at people-so sorry if I'm a bit snappy:o )