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Becks
June 20th, 2006, 01:44 PM
I feel women authors delve far better into their characters than men authors, while men authors tend to focus more on the action/trinkets. Both, however, do about equally in delving into the plot.
I do believe that most women are more emotional then men, most men just want to be percieved as 'strong' as possible... and women don't care, if you know what I'm trying to get at....cause I don't :p :D
danyl
June 20th, 2006, 03:07 PM
ooo so many people joining ni.
im all a flutter.
:D :D :D :D
I generally agree with you all, lovely people.
Am in such a good mood :cool: :cool:
Tari
June 21st, 2006, 06:20 AM
^^^ Tari look! outsiders only joking.
EEK!! :eek: :eek: *runs and hides under rug* . . lol anyhooz. . .
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I hate it when author create a female charcter that can do or acheive anything.
I certainly agree with that, however, I feel that way about ANY character no matter the gender.
Dazzlinkat i agree completely! lol. . .Any character no matter what gender needs to have a mixture and like someone else said their flaws is usually what makes the whole character work. . . .
For example at the moment I'm playing part of a duo in our production "Our Name is Smith" and their quota is bassically "one powerball and im outta here" they hate their job but dont wanna quit or get fired in fear of not finding another job so tehy continue to go to work. Hence their flaw is fear of losing a job and this is whole drive of their characters. Waiting for someone else (in this case Godot) to free them from this position.
Flaws are what characters work on, basically. . .
~ Tari
Draoi
June 21st, 2006, 11:08 AM
oooooo Tari are you really doing "Waiting for Godot"? :D Its one of my absolute favourite of favourites! :D Tell me when and where! :)
Dazzlinkat
June 21st, 2006, 12:50 PM
I do believe that most women are more emotional then men, most men just want to be percieved as 'strong' as possible... and women don't care, if you know what I'm trying to get at....cause I don't
I have no problem if a male character is written so he always portrays himself as the strong (not so much all powerfull but macho) type as long as the author shows the internal struggle to keep up his facade. If a male character is very determined to keep up the 'strong' then the author should show why he feels insecure about 'softening'.
As for female characters, you can also have the 'strong' character who is haunted by seeing her mother/sister/friend/etc as weak and defenseless. An image that perhaps shames her. I always like this character's epiphany when she realizes how strong-willed that seemingly weak person really was. Perhaps by using the 'helpless' role she tricked others into doing her bidding, especially macho men :) "The king may rule the kingdom but the Queen rules the King"
Silver Serpent
June 21st, 2006, 02:34 PM
Dazzlinkat-spot on. (ohh...never really used that phrase before..:rolleyes: :D )i'm wierd.:D
Silver Serpent
June 21st, 2006, 02:42 PM
I find that alot of fantasy books are writen by women now-the whole sexism in literature is leaning the other way now..
Silver Serpent
June 21st, 2006, 02:43 PM
sorry it's so big..:(
Dawnstorm
June 21st, 2006, 02:46 PM
I don't like talking about "flawed" characters, because that's comparing them to some sort of ideal of what a person should be (or supposedly could be). Flaws always refer to some ideal; and the question you should awlways ask is: what ideal, and who has it the easiest to conform to it?
The easiest way to think of it is in terms of physical malfunctions. Take for example blindness. Nobody would tell a blind person that the only reason they don't see is because they're lazy, or because they don't try hard enough. They simply don't have an ability most around them have.
Of course, there are obvious differences physical differences between men and women. What's scary is that sometimes this differences are viewed as flaws. For example, men have a hard time dealing with the women's period, excluding them from priesthood (basically because they think it's yucky). And I'm sure the girls among you have all heard "You've got your *days*!" with a " :rolleyes: " to go along with it.
But a lot of "flaws" aren't like that. When people are perceived as "flawed", they often hear things like "you'll have to try harder", or "are you really that dumb?" when what's really happening is that they are forced to live in a way that's easier for most, but harder for them. Life is hard for everyone, but some attributes are considered so basic that even those that don't have them consider the lack of this a flaw.
An example is an introvert at a job interview that's got the typical express-yourself-structure. From the point of view of the extrovert, the behaviour of the introvert at such an interview is flawed. From the point of view of the introvert, the express-yourself-structure of the job-interview is flawed, but many introverts don't see it like that and think their introversion is the problem.
So, if you're a writer don't ask about your characters flaws, ask about what they're good at, what they're not good at, who wants them to do what, and do they themselves want to do that, think they should want to do that, or hate to do that but have no alternative?
The problem is that many people take for granted what comes easy to them, and dismiss what they have no experience of.
The bottom line is that sometimes men think women are inferior because they're not men, and sometimes women think men are inferior because they're not women. And then both are baffled that the other side is too stupid to understand them, when both don't really make an effort at communication. The "Do you piss standing up or sitting down?" conversation is the classic example.
Er... btw, don't use this kind of argument as an excuse for not making an effort. ("Oh no I'm not lazy, it's just that doing this is soooo much more taxing on me than it's on you.") Lol...
Tari
June 23rd, 2006, 05:42 AM
oooooo Tari are you really doing "Waiting for Godot"? :D Its one of my absolute favourite of favourites! :D Tell me when and where! :)
Next Friday and Saturday Night. . . .June 30th (nearly sold out) and July 1st (about half sold)
Murdoch University, WA. . .
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~ Tari
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