You were right :) the Void is top notch ! finished it 2 weeks ago, I loved it to bits ! Quite similar in some ways, for the epic, to Night's dawn trilogy . I think it is compulsory to read the commonwealth saga before.
So for now, if you want to read Hamilton, I would read finally :
1) The commonwealth Saga (to start slowly :D)
2) The Void
3) Night's dawn
Even if it is long time I have not read SF, I'm personally rating Hamilton in the kind of Asimov or Dan Simmons, not a genre of space-Opera author, but THE space-opera authors :) It is full-on, with rich details and all the ingredients you need to enjoy a good book. It is indeed a bit slow at start but worth the effort.
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I haven't yet read Leviathan Wakes but it's on my TBR pile and I'm looking forward to it. I can understand why so many people are put off by Hamilton. I think it comes down to a matter of taste. If you like the action and plot to take off from the word go and discover the universe as you're pulled along then Hamilton won't be your guy.
Hamilton likes to set up his universe in rich detail; he's very good at it and he comes at you from multiple story-threads often leaving the reader at a cliff-hanger moment then segwaying into a completely different story thread. All these threads seem unrelated at first and half the fun of his stories is seeing how they gradually wind together into powerful story lines. His stories tend to start off slow and build into a furious finish. Some people like that (I do) and some people want their action right away. There's no right or wrong to it, just a matter of taste.
I actually started reading Hamilton with Pandora's Star and felt half-lost until I read the chapter that introduced the evolution of the motile aliens. Everything seemed to click for me at that point and I was hooked and have been devouring Hamilton's books ever since.
I have also finally finished Leviathan Wakes yesterday.
Good Book, a little sweet between 2 big chocolate cake from Hamilton :D. Fast book to read, too fast maybe... I see why people could talk about Hamilton a tiny bit. The plot is epic in some ways.
But seriously, it is too fast. Miss some descriptions in my perspective..Descriptions are important to make you imagine the world the author is creating and to enter a bit more into the book. it seemed a bit weak for me on this point as I found it difficult to imagine the environment several times (the Belt, Eros, Ceres..).
Regarding the characterization, It think it is quite a success to make us like his characters, even if it is fast. Simple characters but loveable.
Nice, twisting and interesting plot. (A bit scared when the zombie story started but finally, relieved :D)
Miss totally of some political and religious views, just action :) Hamilton is a bit more interesting on this side I think.
Overall, I liked it and I will buy Caliban's war, there is a lot of potential here but he should write 300 pages more full of description and characterization :D
I went today to my favourite book shop but no Caliban's war :( will have to order on the web. I decided to buy Consider Phlebas :) to give a try to Ian Banks.
I'm waiting with impatience for the new Hamilton in September.
Did somebody read the thousand emperors from Gary Gibson ? I liked his first trilogy Stealing the light.
- August 14th, 2012, 02:51 AMKazz WyldeQuote:
- October 9th, 2012, 05:26 PMDakotaHello All,
I have continued my quest and re-discovery of Science-fiction, especially the one called "Space opera" ! Sorry do not mean to steal this thread but I feel like talking about my last readings (chosen with all your good advises).
I let you on my way to Ian M Banks. As several people were recommending Mr Banks, I gave it a good try. I read Consider Phlebas, The player of the game and Use of weapon from the Culture series.
Lets be honest : I have been overall disappointed, Maybe I have been not enough focused (summer, holidays etc) but definitly, I'm not a Banks Fan. I did not appreciate at all Consider Phlebas, never really entered in the story, I had the impression that there were some books missing before and after to explain all the context of the Culture universe. I enjoyed and found the player of the game much more interesting, fun, original and entertaining. I was really waiting for something great with Use of weapons as a lot of people seemed to have enjoyed this one but , finally, never really enjoyed a lot the book. Strange characters, some sort of Anti-heros (a bit like some manga boy I thought, a bit dark characters)...Lots of Jump between the heros past and present, A bit lost sometimes, not too sure what the author was following...Yep A bit disappointed overall. Maybe I will give a try again later, Maybe that was not the right time or the right mood to read Banks. It is not crap, do not get me wrong but, imho, far from an Hamilton for example, If comparable.
After my Banks month, I decided to return to something more classical that I have never read : Alastair Reynolds. I went for Pushing Ice as several people recommended it to start on Reynolds. Really enjoyed this book (being honest I forgot the book somewhere and I just retrieved it and I still have some pages to read for the end), Great science fiction, Reynolds goes far in his own idea and scenario, great scale. A bit strange characters, friends one day et enemies the other day, they kill easily, a bit unbelievable human relationships but really a nice not boring book that you want to continuesly read. Maybe found somebody of the talent of Hamilton ??
As I said a bit earlier on this page, I wanted to continue on the expanse series and I bought Caliban's war last weekend. I'm already 100 pages in Caliban's war and it is, for now, breathtaking. It is absolutely fast paced and have more point of view than Leviathan Wakes, which makes the plot and story more complex and interesting. Still missing something compare to guys like Hamilton but good improvement compare to the first book...A bit scared how it will end and how the author will make something good out of all htese stories, lets see.
And Finally, I do not know if I'm lucky, but I found in Waterstones Picadilly (London) the Zones of Thoughts of Venor Vinge (it is 2 books in one, the fire upon the deep and the deepness in the sky). It has been recommended several times on this thread and I have read wonderfull critics, maybe the best Space Opera of all time (wow). I have read the prologue and already it smells the good cooking :P I will finish Caliban's war first and then will start this VERY BIG 2 books in one !
Plan also to Buy Great North road but the one I have seen is too big and hard paper publish. Will wait for a smaller edition.
- March 3rd, 2015, 05:43 PMDuras1989Here's a series i recoment: BALADA: A Symphony of EternityThis is the summary of the first book in the series:
On Caliupus 27th, Imperial year 1898, Federal year 3941, and Republican year 953 on the small home world of the Tolstoy sector, a Federal fleet clashed for less than 3 hours with an Imperial one. This small battle which was the first shot in The Great War was situated above a place called Graperust Manor, owned by a Novo Albetan lawyer called William Murasaki Kuckluck.
After the Battle of Graperust, mister Murasaki said that he had enough of the whole affair and decided to move his family 560.000 light-years to a town called New Hope within the Tremera system, to a house called Woodgrom Courthouse with the intention of avoiding the war in its entirety.
Years later the commanders of the belligerent forces came to that very same courthouse to sign the ending of all hostilities. So when it was over Mr Murasaki could boast that the war began on his front lawn porch and ended in his backyard gazebo.
The Great War raged across millions of star systems, billions of planets and trillions of light years, within it farm workers from Nova Bronze City of the Towar System, clashed with fisherman from Seshrim 9, lawyers and schoolteachers from the Brumbaki Plains of Bulla 8 with doctors and accountants from The Tjigu asteroid cluster.
Whole nations and ways of life would disappear only to be replaced by new ones and within this age of chaos great heroes and villains would emerge, several sentients would join the war, each from the three superpowers, they would be at the most crucial and most bloody of the battles and somehow survive them all, and give testimony of just how unrealistic reality could become.
A smuggler would save a country , a shadow warrior would emerge from the darkness, a rebel would reshape the galaxy, a sentient would change the way things were forever, and a potions brewer who did not go a single day to military school would become the greatest commander the known universe had ever seen or perhaps would ever see. So the sands of time flowed and with their passing the universe changed forevermore.
Grand Scholar and Great War Expert Djanus Todomari
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