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Darknel July 9th, 2004 04:48 PM

Archmage, I appreciate that threads tend to go off topic and generally speaking I too value the free flow of discussion. In this particular instance though I was saddened that a topic which (all credit to you) was very interesting, was being ruined by unwonted bitterness. I agree that the great problem with almost all electronic media is that without being able to gauge the spirit of a persons reactions from physical indicators we may tend to misconstrue what is meant; perhaps this inability to properly communicate tone is an unfortunate failing of our writing style, or maybe the consequence of not treating others as real people because we cannot put a face to the anonymous tag. I mean nothing of that as a criticism of anyone here in particular and I've now said my piece on the issue.

As to the more important matter:
Abnett writes both Fantasy and SF in the Games Workshop (Black Library publications) continuity - kind of like Forgotten Realms, but in my view richer. His seminal SF series is Gaunts Ghosts, which from memory begins with a book entitled Ghost Maker - I appreciate this is a fantasy thread but these books are really space opera. In the strictly fantasy genre, the only title which springs to mind is Riders of the Dead. He also publishes short stories in the frankly excellent Inferno bi-monthly magazine.

Whilst all of the Black Library books lack originality in the world building stakes - an inevitable ramification of franchise fiction, I believe that almost all of the authors who write for them are united by a fantastic, visceral style. Other authors worth looking out for in this vein include: Jeff Green, Neil McIntosh and William King. Jack Yeovil also wrote some novels way back, set in the Warhammer universe.

estranghero July 10th, 2004 03:26 AM

Jack Yeovil = Kim Newman of the Anno Dracula fame.

Just informin' ye. :cool:

Archmage July 10th, 2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darknel
Archmage, I appreciate that threads tend to go off topic and generally speaking I too value the free flow of discussion. In this particular instance though I was saddened that a topic which (all credit to you) was very interesting, was being ruined by unwonted bitterness. I agree that the great problem with almost all electronic media is that without being able to gauge the spirit of a persons reactions from physical indicators we may tend to misconstrue what is meant; perhaps this inability to properly communicate tone is an unfortunate failing of our writing style, or maybe the consequence of not treating others as real people because we cannot put a face to the anonymous tag. I mean nothing of that as a criticism of anyone here in particular and I've now said my piece on the issue.

As to the more important matter:
Abnett writes both Fantasy and SF in the Games Workshop (Black Library publications) continuity - kind of like Forgotten Realms, but in my view richer. His seminal SF series is Gaunts Ghosts, which from m

emory begins with a book entitled Ghost Maker - I appreciate this is a fantasy thread but these books are really space opera. In the strictly fantasy genre, the only title which springs to mind is Riders of the Dead. He also publishes short stories in the frankly excellent Inferno bi-monthly magazine.

Whilst all of the Black Library books lack originality in the world building stakes - an inevitable ramification of franchise fiction, I believe that almost all of the authors who write for them are united by a fantastic, visceral style. Other authors worth looking out for in this vein include: Jeff Green, Neil McIntosh and William King. Jack Yeovil also wrote some novels way back, set in the Warhammer universe.

Well said :) And thank you for the recommendations. And again, you have hit the nail on the head when it comes to the misunderstanding issue that occurs often. Tone is not the easiest thing to try to get across in a medium such as this. People also have different concepts about what respectful debate is as well. So head butting and clashing do occur, but more often than not good discussion occurs.

Peace :)

MartinFan July 10th, 2004 09:50 PM

On another thread I referred to Jack Vance as a premier stylist. His prose is exquisite, with its bone-dry irony and rich, yet economical evocation of complex alien, yet thoroughly human societies. Vance often communicates more in a throwaway paragraph than many writers manage in an entire volume.


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