Music

[Akdor 1154]

In the appencices of one of the two currently available books, it said 'Bard music would sound modern to someone of todays culture' or something like that... I'm assuming this doesn't mean Eminiem or John Butler (well, Mist, maybe ), but what do you have in mind? i.e. 'Folk' music seems the standard music used in fantasy. And in Thorold at the Festival, it says something about the bard's 'slow, solemn music' - is this akin to our 'classical'? or even the separate 'movie music' genre?

[alison]

Great question! Actually, I was thinking of some of the simpler early 20th century stuff - Bartok, John Adams and so on - and how some early music can sound surprisingly contemporary. (Bach's cello solos, say). A kind of "pure" intellectual music, complex and technically demanding, which stretches melody, though intensely melodic... Folk music existed in this world, minstrels play it for instance, and Bards collected the songs and played them because they were interested in everything and in any case enjoyed them; but the true Bard music was for serious musicians.

[Akdor 1154]

Are there any examples we can listen to or read?

I ask because I want to get a copy of Sibelius before I finish High School (There is a special $300-for-full-version offer, as opposed to the normal price of $1500 ) and I want to try it out with something

*I moved this to a new post - alison was too quick for me *

[alison]

Wish there was, Akdor! Whatever was written down seems to have not been preserved.

Perhaps someone might find some, in the ongoing investigation of the Annaren scrolls...

[Akdor 1154]

Oh, so sad...

Now, that would be a nice original idea for an appendix in a future book...

*originally from post 3*

Also, how would they have regarded out modern 'proper' exams - AMEB/ANZCA, or whatever... in my opinion they are just plain crazy - a music examination should be based on hearing/playing ability, not reading, you know, with music being a listening thing and all . I'm not saying reading should be totally ignored, as it is an important part, but aural testing should be at least as important as sight-reading!
I did a jazz exam with some guys from the U.K. (oops, they're probably 'chaps', then ) and it was one of the only times in my life I've seen (heard?) the aural testing given equality with sight-reading - none of the interval recogition crap from AMEB, just a choice between ear or sight: ear = they play it, you repeat it, and sight = sight reading. The same piece was used both times. Like I said, AMEB is plain crazy.

When I read how Maerad could hear/remember, I felt like I'd found a long-lost sister or something!

Anyway, how would the Bards feel about our current ideas about (classical) music theory?

[Mrs. Cadvan]

I think I imagined that the bardic music fuses fast medieval music with maybe a sort of baroque structure, that's to say with a basso continuo or something. When I say medieval, I mean like more modal than with modern octave scales, and with a clear beat. I suppose the mention of lyres and harps and flutes and stuff made me come up with that idea.

[zorobnice]

I have noticed on the Intro thread, that the guys are off on a tangent about music. So as to make sure Bridie doesn't loose it completely with us. I thought I would start a thread about us and the instruments we play, or if you sing what do you sing etc.

I'll start. I am studying Opera in my spare time, Italian Arias are my favourite, even though I have to look up the meanings on the net later. I sing second Tenor, but can do Baritone if I need to and at a push I will get to first tenor.

[M&C_love]

I play the flute, and I enjoy being in musicals in my spare time. Haven't been in one since I graduated last year, though.

Zorobnice: YEA Opera!!

[Ollie]

i have a concert to play in...next sunday i think. lol i've been asked to play baritone sax which is err interesting i also "sing" bass

[zorobnice]

Truly Ollie "BASS", I am astonished at you abilities, BASS your'e 14 aren't you, BASS, this I've got to see

Bridie is this true?? you being inquisitor and all???

[Ollie]

*nods* at least i think i am lol i'm probs baritone but we dont have a wholey sophisticated choir at my skool

[Ingu]

Shoot me if there's a thread for this already...

This thread is for the sharing of real-life music and songs, that anyone found suitable or is just plain WRITTEN FOR a moment, event, feeling, or couple in the Pellinor series. Theme or mood music.

Here's my first contribution, the duet:
All I Ask of You from the Phantom of the Opera.

No more talk of darkness,
forget these wide-eyed fears;
I'm here, nothing can harm you,
my words will warm and calm you.
Let me be your freedom,
let daylight dry your tears;
I'm here, with you, beside you,
to guard you and to guide you.

Christine
Say you'll love me ev'ry waking moment;
turn my head with talk of summertime.
Say you need me with you now and always;
promise me that all you say is true,
that's all I ask of you.

Raoul
Let me be your shelter,
let me be your light;
you're safe, no one will find you,
your fears are far behind you.

Christine
All I want is freedom,
a world with no more night;
and you, always beside me,
to hold me and to hide me.

Raoul
Then say you'll share with me one love, one lifetime;
let me lead you from you solitude.
Say you need me with you, here beside you,
anywhere you go, let me go too,
that's all I ask of you.

Christine
Say you'll share with me one love, one lifetime.
Say the word and I will follow you.

Together
Share each day with me, each night, each morning.

Christine
Say you love me...

Raoul
You know I do.

Together
Love me, that's all I ask of you.

Anywhere you go let me go too

Love me...
that's all I ask of you.


It's such a beautiful song! I can just imagine Cadvan and Maerad singing it... When Maerad becomes depressed or self-doubting, Cadvan comforting her...

PELLINOR, the MUSICAL!

[Mara-Marie]

very cool.
theres a music: all purpose thread. but you might just want to leave this one seperate because it also falls under writing.

[Icelands]

GO PHANTOM OF THE OPERA!

Although I've never really been a fan of All I Ask of You for some reason. Love songs make me depressed, somehow...

Anyhoo, it's kind of weird, because I JUST read a couple poems by the great poet Carl Sandburg and they fit Maerad. I know it's not about music...But since it's to do with the current topic, I think it'll be okay if I post them.


CHILD FACE

There are lips as strange and soft
As a rim of moon many miles off,
White on a fading purple sea.
"Was it there, far-off, real,
Or did my eyes play me a trick?"

A finger can be laid across it,
Laid on a little mouth's white yearning,
Only as a white rim of a moon
Can be picked off a blue sea
And sent in a love letter.

Once a child face lay in moonlight
Of an early spring night.

-

I don't know, this somehow reminded me of Maerad. Maybe from Cadvan's point of view. Because for all Maerad's responsibilities, she is very much a vulnerable child.

Also, it reminds me of the scene on the boat where Cadvan looks at Maerad's face in the moonlight.

-

HONEY AND SALT
(Excerpt)

Can love be locked away and kept hid?
Yes and it gathers dust and mildew
and shrivels itself into shadows
unless it learns the sun can help,
snow, rain, storms can help--
birds in their one-room family nexts
shaken by winds cruel and crazy--
they can all help:
lock not away your love nor keep it hid.

-

This seems to be especially describing Maerad, who hasn't learned to love freely for fear of getting hurt.

[Mara-Marie]

Yeah they do fit Maerad really well.