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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew J View Post

    And what about the No-God? Did anyone read the encyclopedia entry on him? I don't recall it being mentioned before this book about his specific protection, the Carapace/metal sarchogous, but doesn't Kellhus appear at the end somewhat similar to the description of the No-God? If I recall, he appears in a whirlwind and pulls up the debris about him into a shield that surrounds him. Maybe the No-God is some sort of negative form of "thought" and not an actual person/being? If God is everyone, or everyone is God (or has the potential to be God/part of God), what is a No-God?
    Call me crazy but I think the No-God is someone using an 'ancient' technology - a helicopter. Metal carapace, whirlwind - it all fits. The part I want to figure out is what was his role in the sudden lack of births suffered by the population. A genetic weapon? Radiation?

    My favourite is the entry on the Heron Spear - which pretty clearly resembles a beam rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antiphon Rising View Post
    Call me crazy but I think the No-God is someone using an 'ancient' technology - a helicopter. Metal carapace, whirlwind - it all fits. The part I want to figure out is what was his role in the sudden lack of births suffered by the population. A genetic weapon? Radiation?

    My favourite is the entry on the Heron Spear - which pretty clearly resembles a beam rifle.
    My opinion about all the books writen by Scott Bakker :

    1) the books are dificult to read. the english is not outstanding, but the sentense construction is unnecessarilly made complex. Most of the sentenses are broken with innumerous commas and punctuations.
    2) World building is too vague. A reader needs to have exemplary imagination to understand the topography.
    3) war scenes are too brief. A reader loses interest, instead of having that "edge of the seat" excitement feeling while reading the book.
    4)Resemblance to previous context is missing. for example: - Even though scarlet spires is the most powerful school in the three seas, they were wiped off like a bunch of rabbits. what a laugh. LOL

    In all a very disappointing experience. Thank god, I didnt buy the books but read the books online for free.

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    This series was heavily recommended by a lot of friends so there may be something wrong with me, but I'm not a fan of it. Prince of Nothing was frustrating series to read through, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to handle the sequel.

    First, I strongly dislike that the series was called a Trilogy when it wasn't exactly conclusive and self-contained. The ending was clearly unfinished and was just a step to the whole.

    Second, the writing bordered on purple prose - it just had too many unnecessary fillers, and was frankly a bit boring. The action was vague and unimaginative, and the dialogue was poor - or rather, too essay-esque. There was very little in the writing (dialogue, plot, action) in itself to compel me to keep on reading by the third book. The first book didn't suffer as much, but it the story and the book, as a fantasy series, just fell apart. It felt like a poor disguise as the author's philosophy thesis. Worst of all, most of the characters were unlikeable and weak, almost unreal.

    The problem being that many of the characters were flat or lacked depth, lacked personality, and was very much unlikeable. Achamian was the only one I ended up remotely liking at the end (and I was much undecided until the end of the second series) and Kellus, who I thought I'd like, ended up being extremely unlikable.

    Now, I understand Kellus is supposed to be the protagonist according to the titles of the two series (although argument could be made that Achamian is the true protagonist), but he disappointed me by being a robot, with godmode enabled. Worst of all, he was given an instant win button that he can use anytime, as well being able to mind-control all of humanity by simply looking at them. I'm not sure what's so fun reading about a super-god who can revive, mass mind-control, can upgrade/learn things instantly, shoot laser beams out of his eyes, kill everyone with just his little finger, instantly generate gold/equips/everything he needs, see the future, fly, and is invulnerable to everything, including kryptonite. The character development of Kellus (if you can say he had much development) really killed the series to having a great story. "So a robot god landed on earth one day and made everyone his slave. Everything and everyone else is just a filler. The end."

    I also agree with ner.ahb that "Resemblance to previous context is missing." Oh here is this pathetic but extremely clever Emperor. Randomly and instantly killed for no reason in TTT. Oh, the greatest general, the Lion of Kiyuth. No one rallies to him, and he's instantly killed for convenience by a "King" who barely had anyone left in his city, for no explainable reason. Oh, his father. Instant killed. Really, everyone just dies to make Kellus the god of the entire world, and now he's going to supposedly fight the consult just because he has the be the only god of the world. Even Maithanet and the Mandate School became unrecognizable at the end, just more trivialized slaves to the god that is Kellus.

    Also, I really don't mind sex, but I came to the conclusion that Bakker's philosophical stance on sex is rather pubescent. At a point, especially after the first book, there was just too much meaningless sex that did nothing except to fill up the chapter or be a distraction. It series couldn't go a chapter, no, a eighth of a chapter without some sex. I'm also not convinced that everyone is not only bisexual, but all livings things would have no problems having sex with anything, be it a son, a student, a child, a bird, a friend, a Sranc, or a tree with a hole in it. It seemed that to the author, no living thing can become close without sex. Every female in the series was pretty disappointing and lack depth, and were nothing more than objects of gratification. Even worst, they begged for it. It would have been interesting if it was only Esmenet, but apparently all females are good for nothing in this world except to be whores by nature (and in Esmenet's case, she was also slutty and would do it for free if she forgot she needed money, as some early scenes with her implied). And the punchline is of course the Inchoroi is a race of love. Yes, they're doing it all for love and only wants to have sex with the world. The series, when it wanted to take a break from the story, acted like it was a script for bad porn.

    Only two things kept me going, that I'm a completionist and also the philosophical writing. And I'm not too sure about the latter, since it's all nothing new and done mostly through dialogue of flat people (and a invincible robot god pretending to be human).

    The one way this series can redeem itself is if in the next Trilogy (The Aspect-Emperor), it turns out Kellus is the no-god and he dies a long, painful, miserable death to Achamian, with Achamian somehow surviving Kellus' instant-kill switch that Kellus will surely use at the end.

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