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April 8th, 2009, 06:41 PM #76
Spoiler:Logen, Jezal and Glokta's storylines begun in The Blade Itself had concluded by the end of the trilogy. The threat of the Feared and the evil forces of the North have been defeated. The Northmen and the Union have an accord, if not outright peace. The Gurkhish Empire has been thrown onto the back foot and its ambitious crushed.
In contrast, Kellhus and Achamian's journeys that he begun in The Darkness That Comes Before had not concluded by the end of Book 3 and we see clearly the story threads continuing in The Judging Eye.
If you mean the larger geopolitical situation in the world, then fair enough, although:
Spoiler:I think this is more because people were expecting the Gurkhish Empire to be overthrown and destroyed as in a traditional fantasy series. A return to the status quo instead seems to have thrown some people for a loop. I suspect there is more to come, although those expecting direct continuations of those threads in Best Served Cold are going to be disappointed (although those threads and elements are mentioned and we get a sense of stuff going on in the North, the Union and the Empire).
April 8th, 2009, 10:19 PM #77
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I myself loved the trilogy and will shell out the cash for any of his future works.
April 12th, 2009, 05:42 AM #78
I've recently finished this series. I liked it quite a bit, though the last book was a disappointment. It felt like Keyes was just trying to get the book finished, and some parts seemed much too rushed. There were some interesting developments in the final book, especially concerning Stephen, but overall it just seemed like Keyes was trying to fit too much into the book. I personally wouldn't have had anything against the book being twice the size, if it would have meant that more time would have been devoted to some of the parts that were so briefly described.
And the endings for several of the characters were just plain awful. The worst was Robert, and then Fend. I don't know what Keyes was thinking, but his conclusions really weren't satisfying. They were far too rushed, and I'm disappointed that he couldn't at least have written some better fight scenes for the big finale.
April 13th, 2009, 03:53 PM #79
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Keyes was dubbed by many Martin-lite when he started but when all the cards were out on the table some of that magic died. When the mystery is gone it leaves folks judging instead of speculating, which rarely results in the passion enjoyed by fans when the series begins.
As Wert has said in this thread, maintaining the quality of the work to a satisfying conclusion is rare in long series, especially of late. I think if I was writing a long series I'd have an idea for a hook at the very end before I started weaving 5,000 of story together. Easier said than done, of course. I wonder if Martin planned out the end before he started ASOIAF.
April 14th, 2009, 03:22 AM #80
I just finished the last book in The Born Queen. Overal, it was a difficult, sometimes tedious book to get through, and I didn't enjoy it very much. The ending felt very rushed to me, and I felt quite cheated. I feel that this book would have been far better if the events in this book had been divided (and lengthened) to cover two books - or maybe even more, if need be.
April 14th, 2009, 09:42 AM #81
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I've only read the first 3 and I have enjoyed them so far, although they would'nt be in my top 10 or whatever list. There's some interesting ideas running throughout the series and although slow in places, some of the set piece scenes or wow moments are really exciting.
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