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    September 2008 BOTM: Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson

    Discussion is now open on this fairly recent publication.

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    and here's what Rob thought when he reviewed it for SFFWorld back in May 2006:

    With an impressive debut novel under his belt (Elantris), Brandon Sanderson launched the Mistborn trilogy in 2006 with Mistborn: The Final Empire. The primary plot of the novel involves a group of rebels who are trying to overthrow the God-like Lord Ruler of the Final Empire. One might say the story has a caper-like quality to it, but that would be underselling Sanderson’s expertly crafted story far too much. He populates this fantastical, red-skied, ash-falling, mist-rising world with believable characters in a fascinatingly detailed world.

    The novel follows three primary characters, the third character whose presence is felt just as much as the other two, despite sharing very little “on camera” time in the novel. Kelsier holds down the role as primary male protagonist; he is leading the rebellion against the Final Empire. Kelsier is also known as the Survivor, the only person known to return alive from the dreaded prison pits of the Lord Ruler. Though he may seem an outwardly familiar character type, the layers of Kelsier’s character are revealed very nicely over the course of the novel. Upon his escape, Kelsier discovers his Mistborn abilities; he is an allomancer. In Sanderson’s intricately imagined world, Allomancers ingest and burn metals to affect magical/supernatural powers.

    Sanderson’s second focus character is the young street urchin Vin, whose life prior to the novel consisted of roaming the streets with her brother. Upon the opening of The Final Empire, Kelsier invites her to be part of his crew, part of the rebellion. Kelsier sensed something special about the girl, specifically her abilities as an allomancer; he takes it upon himself to train her in the ways of Allomancy. The magic here is thoroughly detailed and well-thought out; one could say the rules dictating its practice are rigid enough to resemble a science. For all the details that inform Sanderson’s magic system, he revealed the inner workings of it slowly. It was an effective, yet simple method for Sanderson to inform, through Kelsier, both Vin and the reader about how the magic works.

    The third character is not seen quite as often as Vin and Kelsier, but his role is just as, if not more important. Each chapter opens with an entry from the diary of the Hero of the Ages, the boy who was prophesized to come into great power, hold a darkness at bay, and rule the world. While the journal entries from the boy who was the Lord Ruler provide insight to the reader of Mistborn, the characters stumble upon the book themselves. Throughout the course of the novel, the characters, specifically Vin, attempt to read into the character of the person who wrote the journal. She tries to make sense of how such a hopeful youth with so much promise and eagerness to do good, a young man who doubts himself, could become the hated dictator.

    Many threads of story are carried throughout the novel on the backs of these primary characters. One of Vin’s roles in Kelsier’s crew is to pose as the scion of a newly arrived noble. Part of the impetus behind Kelsier’s rebellion is his hatred of the noble and the rich. The only hate stronger is his hate for the Lord Ruler, who killed his wife in front of his own eyes. What Vin learns at the various society balls is (not too surprisingly) that not all the nobles should be as hated as Kelsier would have her think. Part of this is because of the attention she gives and receives to young noble, Elend Venture.

    Kelsier spends much of his time scattered throughout the Final Empire. At times he ignites the sparks of the rebellion, others he trains Vin, and in the rarest of episodes, he visits with his estranged brother. Sanderson’s novel and its world don’t rest solely on the three protagonists’ shoulders. He builds up a supporting cast who help to fully flesh out the seeds of rebellion and inform, particularly through the scholarly Sazed, the reader of the great backstory of the his world.

    While I liked the novel a great deal, and my enjoyment truly progressed with each page, Mistborn: The Final Empire, like all novels, is not without faults, even if they are minor. Perhaps my largest stumbling-block was Vin’s name. This is a name I normally associate with males, so it took a while for me to come to grips, for lack of a better term, with the fact that Vin was actually a girl. I also thought that the first few chapters following the prologue moved a bit slow. These are only minor problems I found with the novel, fortunately.

    Sanderson had been on my radar since the release of his debut novel Elantris, though I unfortunately haven’t gotten around to reading it just yet. Mistborn: The Final Empire has convinced me I need to go back and remedy that fact. In this opening novel of the trilogy, Sanderson pulled me into a phantasmagorical world I wasn’t sure about at first. By novel’s end, I felt fully entrenched in The Final Empire, I felt very much in tune with the characters and am glad I have the second book, Mistborn: The Well of Ascension, by my side to start reading. Readers who enjoy Greg Keyes, Robin Hobb, Gary Wassner would enjoy Mistborn.
    Does this bode well for the rest of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time (which Brandon is currently working on)?
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    I must say I enjoyed this book a lot more than I expected to. I came in expecting some middle of the road bog standard fantasy, and got a rather unique and exciting read out of it. This book hooked me from the start and I raced through it as fast as I could. It could just be that I'm a sucker for city novels though, as travelogues tend to get a bit boring after a while.

    The plot was very different to a lot of books out there, not a "grand quest" as such, just a lot of machinations towards a final goal. The story behind the foundation of the final empire and the final revelations make for a lot of suspense, and I'm looking forward to getting the sequel to find out where it was all leading The great pacing and narrative direction in this book came out especially well in contrast to Shadowbridge last month. This book always felt like it was going somewhere, and there was always something happening or something to look forward to.

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    I really enjoyed this book when I read it about a year ago, but I don't remember a whole lot of details. I remember thinking that the magic system was quite unique. I bought the 2nd Mistborn book, but I only made it about 30 pages into it before setting it aside for a different book that I was wanting to read at the time. I have yet to go back to the 2nd book. I just have too many books on my to-read pile that look better.

    Also, I actually enjoyed Elantris better than Mistborn. I'd like to see a return to that world sometime.

    One other thing. I remember when I started reading the 2nd Mistborn book that I felt Sanderson was very repetitive a lot of times, especially when talking about the magic system and swallowing the coins. He seemed to use too much detail to describe how things worked even after he'd already told us how they worked a few pages before. I can't recall if the first book had this same issue or not.

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    I just started this yesterday. I am only on the third chapter but so far so good. It has not necessarily "hooked" me... but it has gained my interest. One of the things that I have enjoyed early on is the atmosphere: falling ash, mist, and the effect it is having on the environment. Vivid stuff...
    I am looking forward to where this goes.

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    Ooh, I like that cover a lot more than my copy's. Hobbit, which version is that?

    I'm so happy that I finally read this! I agree with Zedar: It definitely benefits from following Shadowbridge. While I kind of slogged through Shadowbridge, I hardly put Mistborn down. Sanderson does such a good job with the pacing. I mean, I knew the story was actually going somewhere! It was very satisfying to watch the progession from the conception of the plan, through the set-backs and complications, all the way to the execution--in one book! While this is the first of the 3 book series, Mistborn stands by itself as a thoroughly enjoyable novel. I can't wait to read the second, because Sanderson left enough mysteries unsolved to keep my attention piqued.

    Some flaws: It took me a while to become accustomed to the magic system. There was a little too much detail overload in the beginning, and I had a difficult time remembering which metal caused which effect. Not a big deal, it just meant I had to flip to the back of the book to keep them straightened out. The magic system itself was pretty cool, and it's incorporated very seamlessly into the story. You know an author does a good job when he takes something completely foreign, then makes it a natural part of the world, so much so that the reader expects to find it even in the most mundane activities. Yeah, some descriptions became a little repetitive, but this was easy enough to overlook. I got the feeling that Sanderson had FUN dreaming this system up.

    On an unrelated note, does anyone know why they changed the artwork for the US paperback versions? I like my books to match--not to mention the fact that I loathe the new artwork--so I'd like to get a paperwork copy of Well of Ascension with the hardback cover art. Does anyone know if this is possible? And if so, where I can find it?
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    This is a really good book. The magic system is the best I've read as far as a combination of creativity and the way it is entrenched into the story. The plot is exciting, it looks like it's going to be predictable, and then it isn't. You actually care somewhat about the characters.

    However since flaws are always easy to find, here's a couple things that annoyed me:
    1. Vin and Elend romance was pretty well a disney story line. Girl and guy are in love but are from very different social standings so it doesn't look like it's going to work out, but then it does. Nope, never seen that before.
    2.One very small thing that really annoyed me was that one scene when Kelsier was talking to Mennis in the middle of the book (not the prologue). He called Mennis by his name every other sentence. Do you ever talk to someone and keep using the persons name. They're the only person there, obviously you're talking to them. That really annoyed me for some reason.

    Very good book overall, and the second one is even better. Ithink he'll do a good job with A Memory of Light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molybdenum View Post
    However since flaws are always easy to find, here's a couple things that annoyed me:
    1. Vin and Elend romance was pretty well a disney story line. Girl and guy are in love but are from very different social standings so it doesn't look like it's going to work out, but then it does. Nope, never seen that before.
    Haha...I thought the same thing about their relationship! And since I'd also read Elantris (warning: spoilers ahead for Elantris, I guess)
    Spoiler:
    I knew that they'd get their "happily ever after", for this book at least, and I suspect for the rest of the series.
    As for Vin and Elend,
    Spoiler:
    Did you also think that Vin is totally unequipped to be queen to Elend's king?

    Another part of their relationship that annoyed me was Elend himself. He was so irritating, kind of a doormat for a lot of the novel. Sure, he read his radical books and had his philosophy group, but he never did anything, or at least not until most of the work was already done for him. I couldn't quite grasp why Vin was so drawn to him.

    Oddly enough, my favorite character was one who had very little screen time, so to speak: Marsh, Kelsier's brother. For a secondary character, he has amazing depth. Practical and very stern on the outside, we also get to see glimpses of his inner thoughts without him breaking out of character.
    Spoiler:
    Of course, it doesn't hurt that he's such a bad-ass at the end. He's also the character for whom I'm most interested in seeing what comes next, mainly because his position is so unique.

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    Ooh, I like that cover a lot more than my copy's. Hobbit, which version is that?
    As far as I know Ademona, it's the US Hardback edition.

    Are any of these your cover?





    The Well of Ascension cover is also similar:



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    note to self: think first, then post.

    Oops, apparently I didn't look too closely at the hardback editions Guess I was too caught up with differences between the paperbacks, of which I have the version with the first cover you posted.

    Still, I wander why they chose to change the cover art from the first cover to the second in the paperback edition. In my opinion, the art on second cover is far less attractive. In fact, I probably won't be buying Well of Ascension (only my favorite authors receive the honor of the hardback purchase); instead, I'll head over to the library to see if they have any copies.

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    The cover art changes were somewhat confusing to me, too. Although with the $4.99 cover style, Tor released the 2nd Mistborn novel in mass market in that style. (Maybe Mr. Sanderson can pop in an let us know?)

    Those things aside, I agree that Elend was something of a fop in the first book. He wasn't all that developed, especially compared to Vin (I still can't get over that name for a girl, makes me think of Vin Diesel).

    In some senses Vin was a conventional heroine - she went through some identity shifts and had bouts of pluckiness, but also thought she had elements that made her less conventional, too the way she fit in with Kelsier's crowd.

    BTW I'm reading Mistborn:The Hero of Ages and loving it. The series really is good on the whole.

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    I really enjoyed this book. It was a breath of fresh air after all those quest fantasy. I really liked that idea of a rebellion.
    At first, when I saw that it will be about thieving crew, I instantly thought of The Lies of Locke Lamora and dreaded that it will have all those descriptions of the preparations for the thieving jobs that I found so tedious, but luckily that was more in the background.
    The characters were great, especially Vin who was fleshed out the most. I really felt sympathetic to her and felt everything she went through. And the love story between her and Elend was just charming, although a bit clichéd. Only one minor problem I had was how fast Vin adapted to her new surroundings for someone so traumatized over the years and how fast she figured out how to defeat The Lord Ruler.
    Other characters were also great and I enjoyed every one of them for their differences and their funny little bickering that made me even forget how really grim and depressing is the world they are living in.
    Even though the book can stand on its own, I'll certainly check out the sequels, cause there is a lot more I want to find out.
    And as for Sanderson finishing WoT, I can only say that I enjoyed this one of his book a lot more than any of the four Jordan's books that I've read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob B View Post
    I still can't get over that name for a girl, makes me think of Vin Diesel.
    Hilarious! .
    I also thought it was a boy when I read the synopsis but never thought of Vin Diesel. Her name really didn't bother me and I thought it suits her. I had more trouble with her fake name, Valette.
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    I seriously enjoyed this book and here's why.

    I the pacing was wonderful. I didn't want to put it down nor did it feel like I was being forced forward to get to the next good part. It was all good. The world was very interesting too. I loved the post apocalyptic feel. The system of magic was unique (at least to me). It was explained repeatedly but I sort of appreciated it. Reading one extra line of description was faster than flipping to the back and getting an answer to what metal does what over and over. The characters were interesting and diverse. I have to agree with Tomau that Vin did seem adapt a little to quickly though it seems that time moved fast in the book (20 pages could have been 2 months in some places). That may have had something to do with it.

    All that being said, it was a great read that I really enjoyed. It did succeed in doing what I feel the first book in a series is suppose to do and that's make me want to read the second. Which I did. Those with complaints about Elend should read the second. His character gets much more screen time and developes nicely, but that's a different book for a different discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin2209 View Post
    I seriously enjoyed this book and here's why.

    I the pacing was wonderful. I didn't want to put it down nor did it feel like I was being forced forward to get to the next good part. It was all good. The world was very interesting too. I loved the post apocalyptic feel. The system of magic was unique (at least to me). It was explained repeatedly but I sort of appreciated it. Reading one extra line of description was faster than flipping to the back and getting an answer to what metal does what over and over. The characters were interesting and diverse. I have to agree with Tomau that Vin did seem adapt a little to quickly though it seems that time moved fast in the book (20 pages could have been 2 months in some places). That may have had something to do with it.

    All that being said, it was a great read that I really enjoyed. It did succeed in doing what I feel the first book in a series is suppose to do and that's make me want to read the second. Which I did. Those with complaints about Elend should read the second. His character gets much more screen time and developes nicely, but that's a different book for a different discussion.
    Or the 1st sample chapter of the third book posted on http://www.brandonsanderson.com/libr...ample-Chapters. (not the prologue). It's quite the shocker how far he moves over the course of the series. Don't read it unless you've read the first two books!

    As for Vin's adaptation, a year is still a pretty long time. With new surroundings I really don't think it takes that long to change with different people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by molybdenum View Post
    As for Vin's adaptation, a year is still a pretty long time. With new surroundings I really don't think it takes that long to change with different people.
    Yeah the more I think about it I was probibly paying more attention to the pages and the pace than the time that had elapsed in the book. I didn't want to put it down and read it about 3 days so it just felt that it was rushed though it really wasn't.

    I personally appreciate an author that can develope a character as well as he did without ruining the pace of the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molybdenum View Post
    Or the 1st sample chapter of the third book posted on http://www.brandonsanderson.com/libr...ample-Chapters. (not the prologue). It's quite the shocker how far he moves over the course of the series. Don't read it unless you've read the first two books!

    As for Vin's adaptation, a year is still a pretty long time. With new surroundings I really don't think it takes that long to change with different people.
    I agree, after reading the first two books, it is fun to see how far he can progress a story in a small number of pages. The pacing in these books really helped pull me into the World and keep my attention. Loaned them to a friend at work and he has really enjoyed them also.

    The only exception was probably the beginning of the second book seemed to drag a little. Having said that the book was good and I will pick up the third to find out how it ends.

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