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January 5th, 2012, 02:12 AM #196
I have just recently self published and am currently in the process of purchasing reviews to use as a tool to self promote my book. To be honest, its a blatantly avant garde/non commercial dark fantasy/parody spoof. Based on my own research, there is not much of a market for this type of genre. Does this mean that I have no hope for any type of commercial success? Or does it mean I have that particular market cornered for myself?
January 5th, 2012, 04:26 AM #197
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Hey Starchaser3000, there's a good thread running at the moment about reviews.
Plenty of stuff to help you out on this site and most people are pretty happy to answer questions and so on. There's also a marketing thread among other things.
Good luck with your work.
January 8th, 2012, 07:18 AM #198
January 8th, 2012, 05:17 PM #199
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January 8th, 2012, 10:06 PM #200
What I have written is more like the fiction/fantasy novel/series that I never saw and read. But I think my personal sense of humor in regards to some parts of obscene sex and violence and touching upon certain political, social, and racial issues might be misunderstood negatively. If that happens, I already got the bases covered to explain away WHY and for what reason I wrote my book in such a non commercial way.
In later years when I gain more experience as a writer, I plan to write a more commercially serious single volume outer space science fiction novel and leave it open for a possible sequel. But this parody/spoof series of mine will probably keep me occupied for at least the next two years before I can even think about starting on that.
Sullivan, could you elaborate more on how the current fiction/fantasy landscape has become more dark and gritty??
January 9th, 2012, 04:00 AM #201
January 9th, 2012, 07:58 AM #202
The market (publishers) also saw this and so they were looking for something new...something different. So writers such as G.R.R. Martain, Brent Weeks, Joe Abercrombie, started writing fantasy with tough characters who had a seedy underside and many times the good guy loses or dies. This was "different" and therefore it has become very popular.
My epic fantasy is "light, fun, and generally has a spirit of optimism and "unlikley heroes" but who eventually do the "right things". Many people reading this say how "refreshing it is that I'm bucking the recent trends to gritty and dark." I'd like to take credit for that but the reality is...I really hadn't been following the genre and didn't even know that a change had taken place. When I wrote my story I was writing what I liked and wanted to read. As it turns out...if I had written it in the 1980's it would have been just 'one of the pack' now it is "fresh and original" because the pendulum is predominantly on the "new" gritty end of the spectrum.
January 9th, 2012, 09:14 AM #203
That's cool. So I guess you would be considered a throwback. In mine, I'm doing the good and evil is distorted by shades of gray method. There are heroes and villains on both sides. I know this has been done in serious fiction numerous of times. But now I'm doing this within the theme of parody/satire.
January 9th, 2012, 10:06 AM #204
Parody and satire - There has been some of in the past -but to be honest I don't know enough of that particular niche to be able to comment on intelligently. Maybe someone else more familiar with that bent can weigh in.
January 9th, 2012, 02:13 PM #205Originally Posted by sullivan
Instead there are the five basic sub-categories and a number of different stylistic traditions that have been used regularly in fantasy fiction, all decades. The five basic sub-categories are secondary world, historical fantasy, contemporary fantasy, dark fantasy/horror and satirical fantasy. Dark satire is a regular thing in the market, again, Starchaser. We've had several threads in the Fantasy section on comic fantasy; I'll see if I can dig them up for you. Portal and multiverse fantasies tend to get thrown into either contemporary fantasy or secondary world fantasy, depending on what's being done with them.
January 9th, 2012, 02:47 PM #206
Dark Satire. (Slaps forehead) Thanks on another helpful reference KatG.
January 9th, 2012, 10:01 PM #207
Yes, there's quite a lot of dark satire. Black humor. First, if you haven't seen them, go rent an Evil Dead movie, any one of the three, and you can add a chaser of My Name is Bruce. Then try, if you haven't seen it, a horrible horror movie called Slither starring Nathan Fillion.
Check out these titles for a start, plus the earlier ones, and the ones with the smaller presses particularly:
Carpe Demon, Julie Kenner & Laura Hicks
It Came From Below the Belt, Bradley Sands
Last Burn in Hell: Director’s Cut, John Edward Lawson
Undead and Unemployed, Maryjanice Davidson
Matt Richter series, Tim Waggoner
any title written by Christopher Moore
John Dies at the End, David Wong
Mogworld, Yahtzee Croshaw
Grunts, Mary Gentle
Johannes Cabal the Necromancer, Jonathan L. Howard
Demon Squad series, Tim Marquitz
Felix Gomez series, Mario Acevedo
January 9th, 2012, 10:05 PM #208
January 10th, 2012, 01:16 AM #209
Yeah I've seen the Evil Dead movies. You could say that in my own series that I'm influenced by the Army of Darkness movie.
At sullivan: I think its a good thing for you that there are not that many hero/epic style fantasy books like yours. IMO it means you have cornered the market to a certain degree.
January 11th, 2012, 02:31 PM #210
I'll try to make you a list -- there's a lot, but I think what I'm going to try to do when I get the chance is a thread looking at what's coming out/recently been out, either here to talk about writing/market stuff or in Fantasy and SF forums. But that's part of the chunk of things I'm supposed to be doing for SFFWorld list.