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    The Ninth Avatar by Todd Newton

    Just wondering if anyone here has read it, been hearing good things about it. If not mistaken the author posts here, so surprised I haven't seen the book mentioned, and if mentioned... infrequently.

    Anyways, I'm quite interested in it, seems like something like I and many here would enjoy, or at least want to give a try.

    Here's a review by Cindy over at FBC:
    http://fantasybookcritic.blogspot.co...viewed-by.html

    So, anyone given it a try or planning on it?

    Review
    "The Ninth Avatar is a very fast read that literally hits the ground running." --E.L. Fay, This Book and I Could Be Friends (added by author)

    "The narrative is well thought out, despite some required leaps of faith, and provides a decent serving of food for thought. The characters are well developed, unique, and intriguing." --John F. McDonald, The New York Journal of Books (added by author)

    "Todd Newton has some amazing talent that I'm sure readers of fantasy will be coming across in the future." --Cindy Hannikman, Fantasy Book Critic (added by author)

    "...overall The Ninth Avatar delivers for me and I was compelled to dive back into the story every chance I had. I am really looking forward to seeing Newton's progression after this debut novel." --Seak (Bryce L.) at Only the Best SFF (added by author)

    Product Description

    When the slain march, prophecy will be fulfilled. The Ninth Avatar is coming.

    Wizards have wondered for generations when a human would ascend to become the Ninth Avatar, and what would happen when they did. Opinions differ, but the Ninth Pillar of Magic--that of Darkness--is feared by many whether they use magic or not.

    When Starka, an outcast priestess of the magic loathing Cathedrals of Myst, receives a prophecy heralding this ascension, a new force rises to threaten the entire known world. The Carrion army, a race of transformed humans bearing black horns and an unquenchable thirst for blood, destroys every city it comes across. Their leader, Zion, has only one goal: to become the living embodiment of magic that is the Ninth Avatar.

    Aiding Starka in her quest to halt this are DaVille, a mysterious warrior bent on killing the Carrion leader; Cairos, a wizard from the betrayed city of Illiadora; and Wan Du and Lady Mayrah, a man and woman from rival nations now decimated by the Carrion. Amidst all this turmoil, Wadam, a Cardinal of Starka's faith, seeks to seize control of Myst for himself and thereby subjugate the female leaders.

    With the world in peril Starka must find the means to prevent these things, or die trying. (edited by author)
    http://www.amazon.com/Ninth-Avatar-T...9126129&sr=1-1
    http://www.amazon.com/Ninth-Avatar-T...9126129&sr=1-1

    Don't know why it's so expensive at the moment though.

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    Referring to the comment by E.L. Fay, I want to know how it literally hits the ground running. In that statement, the thing that hits the ground running is the "read". I interpret that term as meaning the story or the book. Since neither really has legs, it is impossible for them to run at all, literally speaking.

    I considered that perhaps the story begins with someone hitting the ground and running, and that is the thing being referred to. So I went to Amazon and read the beginning of the Prologue and Chapter One. Just as I suspected, however, no running.

    Sorry for the completely OT rant, but this is a pet peeve of mine and it seems to be happening more and more often. A basketball player has a great game, so a sports reporter claim that he literally blew up on the court. Uh, no he didn't. I'm sure there would have been more coverage of something like that. A young boy goes missing and an extensive search is unsuccessful, so local law enforcement asserts that he literally disappeared off the face of the earth. Holy crap, that's not just a missing boy, that's the rapture! The incorrect use of this word just bugs the crap out of me (but not literally).

    Regarding the book itself, I agree with Cindy from FBC on the cover; very cool. Nothing else about the book really sounds that great, though. I suppose some more positive reviews could sway me, but for now, I'll skip it.
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    Um...Paging Mr. Newton. Come in Mr. Newton. They're discussing your book or at least trying to...free press, bud.

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    I'm here, I'm here, sorry for the delay.

    (thank god for Google Alerts)

    One moment.

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    Bastard, thanks a lot for the interest. I don't do a lot of self-promo on the boards because, frankly, it's obnoxious! I mostly hang over on the Writing forum.

    Regarding the book, it's my debut work, and I'd love to hear your thoughts if you do actually read it. The publisher is a small, start-up press, which could account for your cost question. The price may drop if I reach a second print run, but that depends on people like you.

    Obtuse, apt name I can't scorn reviewers, or how they decide to phrase things, for obvious reasons. The misuse of "literally" is sort of a pet peeve of mine, as well, in day-to-day life. However, what I hope E.L. meant was I didn't wait 10 chapters to make the story interesting and/or engaging and/or action-packed and/or full of death, destruction, mayhem, and general edge-of-the-sword loveliness. Then again, if you read her blog posts around the time she read my book, she basically said, "He's no Tolkien." Taking that at face value, it's good to know I'm alive, right?

    Radone, thanks for the page. I've been ensconced in editing this third book and haven't been on the forums as much for the past month or so. Hoping to have it in the publisher's hands by first of August to see if they're interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdnewton View Post
    Bastard, thanks a lot for the interest. I don't do a lot of self-promo on the boards because, frankly, it's obnoxious! I mostly hang over on the Writing forum.

    Regarding the book, it's my debut work, and I'd love to hear your thoughts if you do actually read it. The publisher is a small, start-up press, which could account for your cost question. The price may drop if I reach a second print run, but that depends on people like you.

    Obtuse, apt name I can't scorn reviewers, or how they decide to phrase things, for obvious reasons. The misuse of "literally" is sort of a pet peeve of mine, as well, in day-to-day life. However, what I hope E.L. meant was I didn't wait 10 chapters to make the story interesting and/or engaging and/or action-packed and/or full of death, destruction, mayhem, and general edge-of-the-sword loveliness. Then again, if you read her blog posts around the time she read my book, she basically said, "He's no Tolkien." Taking that at face value, it's good to know I'm alive, right?

    Radone, thanks for the page. I've been ensconced in editing this third book and haven't been on the forums as much for the past month or so. Hoping to have it in the publisher's hands by first of August to see if they're interested.
    We'll see, I often wait for book prices to drop a bit... but if I keep seeing good word on the book, I'll get impatient and buy it.

    And you're quite correct about the cost/price, I've noticed it with quite a few books I bought recently from small presses or self-published books. Sellers don't give good discounts one is accustomed to with other books.

    But $27 + Shipping is just quite a bit much for me at the moment for the hardcover, which is the version I'm interested in.

    About doing self-promo, I'd say with you having over 400 posts in this forum in a 2 year span I'd say doing a bit of it would be welcomed. But other than that, was just surprised of seeing little mention of it here from other members once I've learned that you were a fairly active member here.

    Anyways, anything else you can say about the series that would be of interest, like your plans for it if any? How many books, planned target date for the sequel, etc.? But overall from what I've seen word has been quite positive, at least in the places I've looked.

    And I don't go to the Writing Forums, other than a couple of times a couple of months back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obtuse View Post
    Referring to the comment by E.L. Fay, I want to know how it literally hits the ground running.

    I too am irritated when someone says 'literally' when them mean 'really' or 'it happened in an extreme way.'

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    I just purchased this, and Shadow's Son through bookdepository. Not sure when I'll get to reading either of them though, I have a few other books to read too. We'll see what mood I am in when I finish with The Desert Spear and Retribution Falls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksbane View Post
    I just purchased this, and Shadow's Sun through bookdepository. Not sure when I'll get to reading either of them though, I have a few other books to read too. We'll see what mood I am in when I finish with The Desert Spear and Retribution Falls.
    Fantastic. See Jon, people do buy them together. Odd, eh?

    Darksbane, I just read The Desert Spear last month, right before I read Shadow's Son actually. Brett has created a really fantastic world. Very enjoyable. Can't wait for the next one of that series, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdnewton View Post
    Fantastic. See Jon, people do buy them together. Odd, eh?

    Darksbane, I just read The Desert Spear last month, right before I read Shadow's Son actually. Brett has created a really fantastic world. Very enjoyable. Can't wait for the next one of that series, either.
    I enjoyed The Warded / Painted Man well enough, especially towards the end, so I am hoping that he builds on the conclusion of the first.

    And I'm horrible for impulse buying online. I saw two titles of books that were recommended in the same thread and therefore I bought them together. And I'm a stickler for nice covers; is the main reason I ended up reading Michael J Sullivan's Riyria Revelations, so hopefully these end up being as good a buy as those were.

    Also, I notice now that I spelled Shadow's Son wrong in my original post. Oops.

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    Well it's not a long book at 374 pages, but it seems like my tbr pile is growing so steadily that I'm not certain I have time for a book that almost no one has read. I go by reviews and ratings and this has almost none on goodreads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt View Post
    Well it's not a long book at 374 pages, but it seems like my tbr pile is growing so steadily that I'm not certain I have time for a book that almost no one has read. I go by reviews and ratings and this has almost none on goodreads.
    Totally understandable, Pvt. It's tough to want to take a chance on a debut, especially if there aren't many recommendations backing it up. I'm working on this, I promise!

    I hope you keep it in mind for the future, and circle back at some point. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippokrene View Post
    I too am irritated when someone says 'literally' when them mean 'really' or 'it happened in an extreme way.'
    I don't see the problem with the usage. It's really no different than the usage of idioms, phrases, figure of speech. "The **** hit the fan"... yeah? Where's the **** and the fan? "He let the cat out of the bag"... what cat, what bag? We can play this game over and over.

    It's just an expression; nothing more, nothing less. It's also similar to the usage of hyperbole, or do you guys also get conflicted when you hear someone say "he's as big as a mountain"? Because he really isn't, you know?

    Sorry for going off-topic, but just wanted to address a pet-peeve of mine.

    "Just my 2 cents".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastard View Post
    I don't see the problem with the usage. It's really no different than the usage of idioms, phrases, figure of speech. "The **** hit the fan"... yeah? Where's the **** and the fan? "He let the cat out of the bag"... what cat, what bag? We can play this game over and over.

    It's just an expression; nothing more, nothing less. It's also similar to the usage of hyperbole, or do you guys also get conflicted when you hear someone say "he's as big as a mountain"? Because he really isn't, you know?

    Sorry for going off-topic, but just wanted to address a pet-peeve of mine.

    "Just my 2 cents".
    "On the other hand..."

    I see what you're saying, Bastard, but the word "literally" has historically been less of a figure of speech. People like hippokrene get angry that it's wrangled into a use it wasn't intended for, which in many cases is actually just hyperbole. It just creates odd juxtapositions when people say <an in animate object> literally does anything. Even so, I think she got her point across with the statement, and my follow-up should have removed all doubt.

    People are allowed to say what they want, but sometimes that makes it difficult to understand them. That's my stance, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdnewton View Post
    "On the other hand..."

    I see what you're saying, Bastard, but the word "literally" has historically been less of a figure of speech. People like hippokrene get angry that it's wrangled into a use it wasn't intended for, which in many cases is actually just hyperbole. It just creates odd juxtapositions when people say <an in animate object> literally does anything. Even so, I think she got her point across with the statement, and my follow-up should have removed all doubt.

    People are allowed to say what they want, but sometimes that makes it difficult to understand them. That's my stance, anyway.
    My final word on this issue, is that I really hate when people make it to be something that's flat out wrong. It's fine not to like it, similar to how many of us don't appreciate teens saying "It's like" over and over. That one says "literally", when it actually isn't "literally" is what brings the hyperbole to life.

    In fact, I think the best way to equate it is to sarcasm which maybe similar to this issue might make certain statements difficult to understand. It's all pretty much a lie, which for the most part it's understood that it's a lie, and that being so it serves it's purpose be it being funny, hyperbole, etc.

    So while it's not being used for it's intended purposes, it's not being used wrong. It's just an on purpose lie that by all accounts thinking being should understand it as such and not take it at face value.

    Just like sarcasm, it can be hard at times to identify what is meant when things are written instead of expressed verbally, but for the most part one can tell. I mean, are we actually wondering if books have legs? I very much doubt it.

    That'll be the last of it from my part, while I find these debates fun I want to hear more from The Ninth Avatar. Yet to see any member here express that they've read it, and I very much doubt that's the case. Come on, at least one of you should have tried it no?

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