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    J.V. Jones

    The Book of Words 1: The Baker's Boy by J.V. Jones

    Conspiracies and treachery run deep at Castle Harvell. King Lesketh is dying of an illness, the Four Kingdoms are at war with the neighbouring land of Halcus and Chancellor Baralis is intriguing with the Knights of Valdis and the Duke of Bren. The other major powers of the continent, sensing a coming clash of nations, are arming for war. But such things are flying high over the head of Jack, a simple baker's apprentice who just wants to get on with his life. When Jack manifests powers that mark him as a sorcerer, he earns the enmity of Baralis. Fleeing into the wilderness along with Lady Melliandra, who is trying to escape a marriage to the sinister Prince Kylock, Jack has to come to grips with his powers and discover his role in the unfolding events.

    The Baker's Boy, originally published in 1995, is the debut novel by British fantasy author J.V. Jones and the opening volume of the Book of Words trilogy (itself the opening three volumes of a longer fantasy epic continued in her current Sword of Shadows sequence). As a glance at the plot summary will reveal, we are deep in the heart of Traditional Fantasy Territory here. There's a young boy destined for great things. There's evil sorcerers conniving to bring about dark ends. There's cruel and unworthy heirs to thrones, and beautiful ladies trying to escape from pre-arranged fates. It's all very traditional.

    Traditional does not necessarily mean bad, and Jones laces her story with some darker and more interesting elements. The book is fairly 'low fantasy' in nature, dwelling on conspiracies, murders and assassinations. Characters such as Baralis are ruthless and merciless, but do not see themselves that way and are presented as the hero of their own story. Blurring the moral boundaries nicely, Jones sets up the greatest threats to Baralis as coming from Tavalisk, Archbishop of the distant city of Rorn, who himself is a venal, vain, arrogant and cruel man, little better than Baralis; and Maybor, Baralis's rival at court and the father of Melliandra, who is also presented as a violent and unpleasant man. The fact that these three characters are as bad as one another makes it hard to root for any side, although Jones gives a more sympathetic portrait of the three characters caught up in the three connivers' webs: Jack, Melliandra and Tawl, a knight who is searching for a young boy whose coming is foretold in prophecy (yes, one of those). There is also a tremendously satisfying vein of black humour running through the book, such as Tavalisk's wry observations of events being accompanied by a battle of wits with his much put-upon manservant.

    Whilst Jones mixes the traditional fantasy ingredients up a little, and the book is always readable, regular genre readers will find little here that has not been done before, and better. As a first novel, The Baker's Boy is certainly very rough in places. Where the book gains some additional value is that Jones later went on to write The Sword of Shadows, a fantasy epic that is categorically superior to almost everything else in the genre (certainly it's batting at the same level as A Song of Ice and Fire, the Malazan series and the works of Guy Gavriel Kay). Whilst The Book of Words is nowhere near as good, though there is an escalation in quality from book to book that is impressive to watch, it's certainly worth a look as some characters that re-occur in the later Sword of Shadows do first appear here, and knowing their backstory has some worth for the later books.

    The Baker's Boy (***) is as traditional a start to a fantasy series as there has ever been, though it remains resolutely entertaining. There are some rough spots as Jones comes up to speed but there's a rich vein of dark humour, some solid characterisation and an ending that was rather startling and refreshingly bleak in those altogether more cliched times when the book first came out. The novel is available now in the UK and USA.

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    Have yet to read anything by Jones yet, what author would be comparable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurzoBlint View Post
    Have yet to read anything by Jones yet, what author would be comparable?
    The Book of Words series reminded me a bit of The kingdoms of Thorn and Bone by Greg Keyes, with the characterizations, political intrigues, brooding atmosphere, and hints of other worlds waiting to be revealed. The BoW is the only series I can remember where I read all three books in a row without any other intervening books tossed in for variety. Agree that there's not really anything original in it, but for whatever reason (maybe mood-related at the time) it worked really well. Still need to read her follow-up books.

    By the way, for Kindle readers the BoW series is available in a bundled version for only $8.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Book-of-Wo...ords=J.v.jones
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    For her first trilogy, think of a bloodier David Eddings. For her later series, think of the beyond the Wall sections in ASoIaF.

    The jump in quality between her two series is absolutely massive. I don't think I've seen anything comparable.

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    I have read the Book of Words and i agree that it is a solid work, but nothing that stands out.

    Her newer work, the sword of shadows saga interests me a lot. But as i have heard that she has similar problems as GRRM with getting things done, i am loath to pick the series up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglachel View Post
    I have read the Book of Words and i agree that it is a solid work, but nothing that stands out.

    Her newer work, the sword of shadows saga interests me a lot. But as i have heard that she has similar problems as GRRM with getting things done, i am loath to pick the series up.
    I got stuck mid-way through volume 1 of Sword of Shadows. Rather odd that I got stuck, the writing was good and did seem up to the task, and the plot seemed to be headed in the right directions, generally. I just found portions of the plot offensive or stupid. I dont mind rape in a book if it serves the plot, but here it was part of a plot line that seemed rather off to me. I suspect I could have blown past this segment of the book, but I never did.

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    The Book of Words 2: A Man Betrayed by J.V. Jones

    Jack and Melliandra continue their flight through the lands of Halcus, seeking refuge in the distant city of Bren. Meanwhile, the mad Prince Kylock has seized his father's throne and embarked on a bloody invasion of Halcus, committing atrocity after atrocity. In Bren, Chancellor Baralis and Lord Maybor have arrived to arrange the marriage between Kylock and the Duke's daughter, to the Duke's disquiet, as well as continuing their own bitter feud. And in the fighting pits of the city, a disgraced knight struggles to find his redemption.


    A Man Betrayed is the middle volume of the Book of Words trilogy and is a prime example of a novel that falls foul of 'middle book syndrome'. The book has no real opening and no real end (though there's a hell of a cliffhanger) and the plot is a mixture of dynamic forward movement in some storylines and some slightly tedious wheel-spinning in others.

    In one of the more successful storylines, Melliandra is kidnapped (again), but this time around is able to turn her circumstances to her favour. She goes from victim to political player over the course of the novel in a transition that is convincingly-handled by the author. On the other hand, Jack's storyline becomes seriously bogged down. Jones clearly had to find something to do to prevent him from travelling straight to Bren and getting involved in events there, and somewhat unconvincingly lands him with a screwed-up family unit living in the backwoods and getting involved in a murder plot. There's some attempts to turn it into important character-building material for Jack but, aside from the titular betrayal at the subplot's climax, it fails to resonate.

    More successful is Tawl's storyline, which is a more traditional arc of seeking redemption following the heinous crime he commits (though unwillingly) at the end of the first volume. Though there is little surprising in this storyline, it's handled well by the author, particularly in the use of the previously tedious 'lovable rogue' Nabber to help Tawl along his path. Elsewhere, Baralis is as fiendishly (if occasionally cartoonishly) evil and Machivellian as ever, Maybor becomes a more interesting character and Tavalisk's observations-from-afar of the main plot remain amusing. Bodger and Grift (the trilogy's answer to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern) also get a bit more involved in the plot as well as providing the book's more comical moments.

    Overall, A Man Betrayed (***&#189 is not without its shortcomings but is a stronger book than The Baker's Boy. Jones's writing has improved, and she juggles the multiple character arcs with confidence. Aside from Jack's repetitive storyline, this is an entertaining fantasy novel, though one that does not stray far from familiar ground. The book is available now in the UK and USA.

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    I thought this trilogy was just "okay," and I wasn't all that impressed with the ending. All in all, an underwhelming enough effort that I don't think I'll be picking up Sword of Shadows.

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    As mentioned above, the jump in writing quality between the two series is absolutely massive. It's almost like the first series was written by someone middling like Raymond E. Feist and the latter one was written by George R.R. Martin. Altogether superior, more involving, better-characterised and better-plotted.

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    Tor's listing up until the end of the year has been published, and sadly, no JV Jones in 2013 either.

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    How many books does she have slated in her current series? I loved the BOOK OF WORDS, but have staved off starting her second series until it's finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quajack View Post
    How many books does she have slated in her current series? I loved the BOOK OF WORDS, but have staved off starting her second series until it's finished.
    I believe it's supposed to be five with three currently out. I too have put off starting the series for just this reason, I put off GOT of 15 years before finally giving in, though I have the first three books sitting in my to read pile upstairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigan View Post
    I believe it's supposed to be five with three currently out. I too have put off starting the series for just this reason, I put off GOT of 15 years before finally giving in, though I have the first three books sitting in my to read pile upstairs.
    Nope,4 books have been published -

    Sword of Shadows
    1. A Cavern of Black Ice (1999)
    2. A Fortress of Grey Ice (2002)
    3. A Sword from Red Ice (2007)
    4. Watcher of the Dead (2010)
    5. Endlords (Unknown Release date)

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    I was probably only 13 or 14 when my mum bought me her book of words series i enjoyed it back then though i've never read it since (still have books though)

    I read her sword of shadows series last year and they were awesome i enjoyed all of them and read them back to back. As stated here its top level writing up there with the great female epic fantasy writers like robin hobb and i'd say is a bit more mature than her earlier works.

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    I agree completely with Wert, Her book of shadows is absolutely superb. There is a strong influence from the Norse sagas (revenge, honor, family) and it is easily up there with the best of them (GRRM, Rothfuss, Eriksson). Her characterisation is superb!

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