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    I would add :

    Jack Vance - The Demon Princes Series:

    The Star King
    The Killing Machine
    The Palace of Love
    The Face
    The Book of Dreams

    Great read.

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    I am working on Hyperion now.

    I must admit it qualifies as EPIC.

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    i should give this thing an update.

    on to robert j sawyer currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andols View Post
    i should give this thing an update.

    on to robert j sawyer currently.
    The Quintaglio Ascension Trilogy should qualify as epic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintag...ension_Trilogy

    http://www.sfwriter.com/scq1.htm

    I don't know if the Neanderthal Parallax does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    I am working on Hyperion now.

    I must admit it qualifies as EPIC.

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    I would say that The Fall of Hyperion is the most epic sci-fi novel I have ever read. It makes A Fire Upon the Deep, Consider Phlebas, or even the Lensman Saga look like Aesop's fables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nquixote View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    I am working on Hyperion now.

    I must admit it qualifies as EPIC.
    I would say that The Fall of Hyperion is the most epic sci-fi novel I have ever read. It makes A Fire Upon the Deep, Consider Phlebas, or even the Lensman Saga look like Aesop's fables.
    –adjective Also, ep·i·cal.
    1.
    noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style: Homer's Iliad is an epic poem.
    2.
    resembling or suggesting such poetry: an epic novel on the founding of the country.
    3.
    heroic; majestic; impressively great: the epic events of the war.
    4.
    of unusually great size or extent: a crime wave of epic proportions.
    I said working on, I did not say reading.

    I am listening to the audiobook. Last night I just listened to Dan Simmon's remake of my favorite scene from Shakespeare.

    'Tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church door bit 'tis enough.

    I have never read a review of Hyperion that mentioned that before. Just about everyone agrees that Hyperion is literary science fiction but it is not my kind of science fiction. If I was reading this I would have quit before 100 pages. But it does qualify as EPIC. But epic ain't necessarily good. It depends on what you want from science fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    I said working on, I did not say reading.

    I am listening to the audiobook. Last night I just listened to Dan Simmon's remake of my favorite scene from Shakespeare.

    'Tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church door bit 'tis enough.

    I have never read a review of Hyperion that mentioned that before. Just about everyone agrees that Hyperion is literary science fiction but it is not my kind of science fiction. If I was reading this I would have quit before 100 pages. But it does qualify as EPIC. But epic ain't necessarily good. It depends on what you want from science fiction.

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    HYPERION AND FALL OF HYPERION ARE EPIC I just finished them a few weeks ago and will move on to ENDYMION soon, just in case it sucks i havent bought its sequel yet, RISE OF ENDYMION. Definitely makes me excited to read Dan Simmons other books ILIUM and OLYMPOS, which are also supposed to be epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asimovking View Post
    HYPERION AND FALL OF HYPERION ARE EPIC I just finished them a few weeks ago and will move on to ENDYMION soon, just in case it sucks i havent bought its sequel yet, RISE OF ENDYMION. Definitely makes me excited to read Dan Simmons other books ILIUM and OLYMPOS, which are also supposed to be epic.
    Warning: The Endymion books do suck. Simmons retcons a lot of the cool stuff from the first two books. (Sorry to all other members of the board who have heard me give this warning a trillion times...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    I said working on, I did not say reading.

    I am listening to the audiobook. Last night I just listened to Dan Simmon's remake of my favorite scene from Shakespeare.

    'Tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church door bit 'tis enough.

    I have never read a review of Hyperion that mentioned that before. Just about everyone agrees that Hyperion is literary science fiction but it is not my kind of science fiction. If I was reading this I would have quit before 100 pages. But it does qualify as EPIC. But epic ain't necessarily good. It depends on what you want from science fiction.

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    OK, I have finished Hyperion.

    This is one of those books that can really piss you off. I promised myself and a couple of other people I would finish this. It was really slow and boring in a lot of places but VERY LITERARY. But you get to the end and you're not in Kansas anymore. You have the stories of all of these pilgrims about their motives for risking their lives with the Shrike and they are just about at the end of their bloody brick road and the story ends.

    Hyperion is nothing but an introduction and teaser for The Fall of Hyperion.

    They are one BIG book split into two pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    Hyperion is nothing but an introduction and teaser for The Fall of Hyperion.

    They are one BIG book split into two pieces.
    Yup.

    Which is why I can't understand the people who say "Stop after the first book."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asimovking View Post
    HYPERION AND FALL OF HYPERION ARE EPIC I just finished them a few weeks ago and will move on to ENDYMION soon, just in case it sucks i havent bought its sequel yet, RISE OF ENDYMION. Definitely makes me excited to read Dan Simmons other books ILIUM and OLYMPOS, which are also supposed to be epic.
    A lot of people will tell you differently, but I think Endymion was just as amazing as Hyperion, but in a very different way. When you finish them, you'll have to let us know what you thought.

    I haven't read Olympos yet, but Ilium was freaking amazing. Epic in every sense of the word. As a matter of fact, it's hard to say which I liked better between the Hyperion books and Ilium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afireinside30x View Post
    A lot of people will tell you differently, but I think Endymion was just as amazing as Hyperion, but in a very different way. When you finish them, you'll have to let us know what you thought.

    I haven't read Olympos yet, but Ilium was freaking amazing. Epic in every sense of the word. As a matter of fact, it's hard to say which I liked better between the Hyperion books and Ilium.

    I will definitely let you all know what i think of Endymion. Im doing the same with it that i did with books that begin a series (The Reality Dysfunction, Mutineer's Moon, Hidden Empire and several that i havent started yet) which is i only get the first book to test and the series and then go from there. Im glad i did this since that hack kevin j anderson only got me for 1 book! ( I was so psyched from reading the synopsis of the series i almost bought the first 3 books to start)

    And that definitely makes me want to read Ilium and Olympos

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    I will definitely let you all know what i think of Endymion. Im doing the same with it that i did with books that begin a series (The Reality Dysfunction, Mutineer's Moon, Hidden Empire and several that i havent started yet) which is i only get the first book to test and the series and then go from there. Im glad i did this since that hack kevin j anderson only got me for 1 book! ( I was so psyched from reading the synopsis of the series i almost bought the first 3 books to start)

    And that definitely makes me want to read Ilium and Olympos
    Alrighty, then. Hurry up and finish! I'm curious about your thoughts.

    Yeah, if you liked Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion, you'll like Ilium. It's the same hard science fiction, but set (mostly) in ancient Greece. Zues, Achilles, an Allosaurus, far-future Earth, robots from Jupiter...doesn't it sound amazing?!

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    Prepare to meet the Wizard, Dan Simmons

    http://www.lunch.com/Reviews/d/Hyper...s-1483540.html

    Yeah, if you liked Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion, you'll like Ilium. It's the same hard science fiction, but set (mostly) in ancient Greece.
    I have just started Fall of Hyperion after finishing Hyperion but it is definitely NOT Hard Science Fiction.

    The Hyperion Cantos is a series of science fiction novels by Dan Simmons. Set in the far future, and focusing more on plot and story development than technical detail, it falls into the soft science fiction category, and has been described as a space opera. The title was originally used for the collection of the first pair of books in the series, Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion, and later came to refer to the overall storyline, including Endymion, The Rise of Endymion, and a number of short stories.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Cantos

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    Quote Originally Posted by nquixote View Post
    Yup.

    Which is why I can't understand the people who say "Stop after the first book."
    Maybe the second book is really bad.

    But then the advice should be, "Don't read the first book."

    I am in the process of trying to figure that out now.

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