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April 15th, 2011, 10:18 PM #605
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From Pat "I wrote this to be the story of a mans life. If you read an autobiography, only an idiot would read an autobiography and type up a review and say,'uhh, they really diverged from the main plot'. And you think, a person life does not have a plot. That just doesn't happen in the real world. Even the people we tend to believe their life had a plot, thats only because we tend to cling to the concepts of a story centered universe. But really it doesn't matter how obsessive you are, your parents are killed when you are a child, so you run off to find the murders and kill them, unless you are a complete sociopath, other things happen in your life. You fall in love, you go to school, something happens. Theres no main plot to batman, its just a series of stories and events. Then again thats been one of my main struggles with this book. It's way easier to write something with one central plot and then a sub plot or two. where as these books i strive to maintain the feel that they are the story of a man trying to tell the story of his life."
Forgive the spelling and bad sentence structure i had to type it up from an audio interview.
Forgive my bad humor Eraefel, I type it how i think it. I know this is all your opinion as well as mine. I am only trying to give another view.
April 15th, 2011, 10:37 PM #606
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I shall quote thirsty, "I think it comes down to this. Though Rothfuss wrote many clever excuses into the book for it's poor pacing, it's still poorly paced. At the end of the day, despite the fact that it's written as an autobiography, it is not an autobiography. It's a novel."
You stated you agreed with Thirsty on this "important" point. You cannot have it both ways.
April 15th, 2011, 10:39 PM #607
I think it's easier to discuss things in person. In person I love to talk about things that fit, didn't fit, theories on where things are going, etc. On here I'm always a little hesitant to go in depth on my opinions because even in the little bit that I have mentioned there have been occasions where I post something and later someone will make a comment whether direct or not that I kinda sit there thinking "but... I wrote...." Things don't translate as easily in print, ya know?
April 15th, 2011, 11:36 PM #608
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I don't understand what the problem is here. Some people loved the book, some liked it...but apparently merely liking it isn't good enough for the staunch Rothfussites.
As for what he "intended" to do, I honestly don't care. If it bores me, it bores me. So what, you want people to call it a boring/poorly-paced autobiography instead? I'm sure they can do that.
And I want to address something that keeps coming up, and that is the defenders' (though why these people feel the need to take up this role is beyond me) assertion that people should not be upset with the book for not being epic enough because it is not an epic. Let's take a look at the back of my copy of NotW:
My name is Kvothe.
I have stole princesses back from sleeping barrow kings. I burned down the town of Trebon. I have spent the night with Felurian and left with both my sanity and my life. I was expelled from the University at a younger age than most people are allowed in. I tread paths by moonlight that others fear to speak of during day. I have talked to Gods, loved women, and written songs that make the minstrels weep.
You may have heard of me.
It is billed as an epic. There are "promises to the reader" of epic proportions. And it is decidedly not an epic...but those elements were used to promote the book. So, really, I don't see how you can argue against the people that complain that it isn't epic-y enough when they probably read it under that very assumption.
Just my $.02
April 15th, 2011, 11:51 PM #609
April 15th, 2011, 11:57 PM #610
The Wise Man's Fear (The Kingkiller Chronicle #2)
by Patrick Rothfuss (Goodreads Author)
4.55 of 5 · rating details · 2,899 ratings · 891 reviews
See that is how you win a debate. Evidence to support your position. Both teahupoo and I have produced an absurd amount of relevant reviews, articles, and interviews to support our positions.
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April 16th, 2011, 12:01 AM #611Originally Posted by teahuppo
There are, however, many people who really don't like Kvothe and the books. A few of them are on this forum, more elsewhere. This is the case for any book, however many glowing reviews it gets, however well it sells and however many awards it wins. The more attention and acclaim a novel gets, the more people have read it and the more you're going to run into people who don't like the work at all. And even if you think the person is totally off his rocker, it will not kill you to listen to that person.
Someone not liking a book is also not the same thing as someone who likes the book but thinks it got a little slow in the middle. That Rothfuss wanted to create an autobiography-like novel does not mean that's the experience that every reader is going to have, or that if they have it that this is an approach that they think totally works for them, which is what Erfael and Thirsty were talking about.
What I liked about Name of the Wind is that it was, for me, poetically mournful. The book is a lament for events past, good and bad. Even in scenes with a comic and satiric cast, which I liked, or scenes of camaraderie or action, there is a tragic undertone, emphasized in the madness that magic use can create, in the loss of Kvothe's family by forces he didn't understand and which so shaped him, by the power of music on the characters, and by Kvothe's lonely determination to survive and discover the truth. And of course, by our knowledge of the darkness and mystery of his future. But I did also find it a little uneven in pacing, with bits that, even if meandering was the intent, didn't meander in a way that was very interesting to me. But these were mild and didn't significantly bother me. I'm rather used to fantasy novels meandering.
I suspect that Wise Man's Fear got bigger than it was originally because Rothfuss started to see wider aspects to its bones. And that's okay, but if you're telling me that he still hasn't slept with that woman, then I may have a problem with the thing after all.
April 16th, 2011, 12:07 AM #612
April 16th, 2011, 12:09 AM #613
He hasn't slept with Denna but he has slept with a number of other women since that seems to be your sticking point.
April 16th, 2011, 12:12 AM #614
I'm also not going to blame the author for how the publisher chose to promote the book.
April 16th, 2011, 12:16 AM #615
I understand that you're trying to present as positive a view of the books you care about as possible to others so that they will read them, I get it, but you have to let other people talk about their own experiences of the fiction here without treating it like an attack on Rothfuss. Otherwise, we simply get into a flame war, with people who don't even want to be in one, which as you are familiar with, is against the forum rules.
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