February 24th, 2011, 01:57 AM
Mrs Sullivan, looking back at my previous post 'contempt' may have been too strong a word...
I am a bit miffed, I can't deny that, but your lenghty explanation clears some things up at least...Just would have liked to keep the books, which covers I thought were wonderfully done by the way, as one complete (d) series... And the price for the last one would not have bothered me, if a book is good I will gladly lay down some more money if the size/pagecount of it is larger than previous books...That makes sense....
Waiting doesn't bother me that much either, as an avid reader of George RR, Scott Lynch, P. Rothfuss etc I'm quite used to a bit of waiting for a book to come out
Like I said, I think it is a wonderful deal and certainly a dream come true for any writer, so best of luck with that...
And even if I'm not happy about the whole thing (obviously reading your post you are neither, which is coolling my anger considerably ), there are worse things in the world...I'll see how it plays out in the end...
February 24th, 2011, 04:27 AM
You get your shot, take it. When the time comes and you possibly have more control and pull with Michael's work, then maybe you can get that sixth book out to finish the series. Hey it's your life and you have to do what's good for you. You can't please everybody all the time.
Until then, I wish you all the success in the world. Like somebody else said, stepping out here and making a public apology for the tiny mishap just goes to show how much you "do" care about your growing fanbase.
And all this confusion seems to be certainly drawing attention to the books, if this board is any indication. There's no such thing as bad publicity.
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February 24th, 2011, 07:39 AM
Thanks for stopping in Robin. I think that you have cleared the air much better than anyone not directly involved in the process could have. I hope that Michael can at least in time look past the negative comments, and focus instead on the numerous positive ones that are out there.
Originally Posted by rsullivan9597
You ask us to blame you and be mad at you rather than at Michael, or that in hindsight you would have done it differently, but I hope you can put those kinds of thoughts behind you. You have helped Michael achieve a great thing. He will be able to reach a much larger audience this way, with his message and his story. Most would never ask you to do it any other way, especially hearing the effort that you are putting into trying to get the last published on its own. I hope you can continue to see the positives of the situation, and help Michael to see it as well, because you guys have been fantastic to deal and talk with. My experience with this series, and with talking with you, Michael, and Ridan, has been exceptional. You are fantastic people, and you deserve the success that you are seeing now, because of all the hard work that you put into this series, and because it is quite clear that Michael's fanbase is VERY important to him.
Michael has my continued support, and the support of a quickly growing fanbase. I'll never begrudge him the success that he has achieved, as he quite clearly has worked hard at it, with your help. And I'm happy to have played my (very) small role to help him get there as well.
So, from me, Congratulations! And good luck going forward. I'm sure that you both have a lot of work ahead of you.
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February 24th, 2011, 10:38 AM
Congratulations and support
This couldn't have happened to a nicer guy and a more deserving one. I'm so happy about Michael's success, and I hope all the supportive notes here help him stand up out of that depression....he's worked very hard to get to this point (and Robin has worked just as hard, so she deserves some thanks herself)--I love seeing determined people succeed! I can't wait to see the new editions. Thanks, Robin, for explaining the situation--you did a very clear job, and I found the backstory very interesting.
February 24th, 2011, 11:16 AM
I agree with the general sentiment that you have nothing to be sorry for. I also wanted to express my thanks to Michael for taking a chance on himself and, as a result, giving me the opportunity to read a wonderful story. I am normally very hesitant to read independent publishers through amazon, but tried out the sample of Crown Conspiracy based on the overwhelmingly positive reviews. I knew within the first few pages that the book was worth a shot. I have now, about two weeks later, finished the third book and the series has far exceeded my expectations. Based on my usual pace of reading, this is quite fast. From a plot and pacing standpoint, I put this right up there with Lynch's work. Well done.
I have now purchased book four, but instead of continuing on as planned, will probably hold off on reading it until some point between now and when the third omnibus volume is released so as to increase my chances of keeping the books somewhat fresh in my mind.
To those that have already purchased print editions of the first five books, try to look at the glass as half full. If the series takes off, those suckers will be collector's items worth well more than what you paid for them.
February 24th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Chocolate.....Count Me In
I hope the book deal works our great for your family. I just wanted to say how much I am enjoying the series and please let Michael know that Riyria kicks ass! Your post was a classy move and I hope everyone here will give the books a look.
February 24th, 2011, 05:30 PM
"Tighter editing" is definitely one of the reasons for going traditional. I've heard nothing but great things from authors regarding the valueof having "the professionals" edit the book. Orbit assigned their Senior Editor (Devi Pillai) to the project and she mentioned that Michael's books were very clean (from a story standpoint) - she was not addressing copy edits.
Originally Posted by newfiesailor
February 24th, 2011, 05:35 PM
Thanks - I'm glad you liked Michael's covers - many people have said nice things about them. As they are primarily "landscapes" Orbit felt that it tended to indicate an emphasis on world building when the reality is the books really are more central around Royce and Hadrian. They have already completed the cover designs and they look very professional (bu I would expect nothing less).
Originally Posted by Corporal Blues
Besides the issues with landscape vs characters, there would be no way to decide "which" of the six covers would be used for each of the 3 books. I think they want to give the books the "Orbit treatment" which I fully support as they have done very nice covers in the past (some of my favorites actually even before we submitted to them.
February 24th, 2011, 05:37 PM
Wow - I'm speechless and anyone who knows me knows that's not an easy feat to pull off. What a nice story - and thank you for sharing it. I was very moved.
Originally Posted by davj
February 24th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Hey Bard - thanks for this. Hang in there - we'll get something worked out I'm sure. It might take a bit of time to figure out all the ins and outs but I'll keep you posted of the final outcome. Things are moving fast ... the announcemnet was just a bit ago and some of the "decision makers" are not in the office. But the wheels are churning.
Originally Posted by Bard
February 24th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Thanks Darksbane, this means a lot to me. And thanks for your support in telling others about this little series that I really think will catch on with others once they discover it exists.
Originally Posted by Darksbane
February 24th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Wave Leona - Been a long time se we've talked - I hope things are going well with your book(s). Has the second one hit the street yet? I know it was being worked on.
Originally Posted by Leona Wisoker
February 24th, 2011, 05:45 PM
Hey Heather. Thank you -- and thank you for telling others about the series - I've seen you posting on it in the past - and I'm sure it is because of people like you helping to spread the word that helped to get this series to the next level.
Originally Posted by Heather Myst
February 24th, 2011, 06:07 PM
Great news! Can't be more happy for Michael and Robin! I can wait for book 6, if it comes out in a timely fashion.
Just wondering with this new deal with Orbit, does this mean there will be more Riyiria Revelations novels in the future? Hope so! Thanks.
February 24th, 2011, 06:10 PM
Publishing doesn't shut down during that time -- it's their biggest sales season -- but the acquisitions side gets slow because meetings are hard to schedule. Luckily that was surmounted and the deal was done. Now, Darksbane, Bard, intrigue us about what the series is about, please.
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