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May 22nd, 2011, 09:20 AM #31
Since this is set in a more medieval time period, people, at the age of 35 or 30, would look older than people at the age of thirty and 35 do now. Harsher living and lack of medicine does that. I think they look right for the period. I mean, 35 would have been considered getting up there in age. People often died at 40. Because these people are nobles, therefore have a bit better of a lifestyle (Though, often they did tend to eat more meat than the commoners, so they did, at times, become mal-nourished, whereas the commoners ate more vegetables and got more nutrients. . . when they ate.) they might live to 55, maybe even 60. Let's say one of the nobles does live to 55, he's going to look more like 65 or maybe even 70. He'd be considered ancient.
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May 22nd, 2011, 06:01 PM #32
My first GENUINE SERIOUS QUIBBLE -
Admittedly this is a complaint about the brutal and unrewarding nature of life in general, rather than the show directly, but it has come to my attention that as soon as tonight's episode has aired in the states, US viewers will be able to immediately watch the next episode via the HBO site. This elicits a firm and throaty
>> WTF <<
from me. What are they thinking? It's stupid. It's senseless. It's not fair. And it'll screw up websites like our own dear SFFW, too. I hereby call upon all US posters to voluntarily forego the opportunity to get a week ahead, and show solidarity with your international brethren.
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May 22nd, 2011, 06:13 PM #33
May 27th, 2011, 07:18 AM #34
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My biggest gripe is the under use and downplay of the dire wolves.
I understand its a fine balance of whether to use CGI, but these direwolves look more cute than dangerous.
Makes me worry when the dragons do arrive
May 27th, 2011, 07:50 AM #35
May 27th, 2011, 09:05 AM #36
Does gold really melt that quickly, that easily?
May 27th, 2011, 10:22 AM #37
I'm wondering if the downplaying of certain elements (the other Stark children, the direwolves, etc) are part of a deliberate misdirection so thatSpoiler:Ned's death comes as more of a shock to first-time viewers. Between the advertising prominently featuring him on the Iron Throne and the fact that Sean Bean is the biggest name in the cast, many newbies are most likely certain he's going to be the lead character going forward. Keeping the show pretty Ned-centric is a good way to really pull the rug out from under them.
May 27th, 2011, 11:40 AM #38
Oooo, I love to moan about something I love. 8D Unfortunetly, It's not that long.
1] Lack of direwolves. I know, I know, cost, blah... HIRE A DOG TRAINER FROM MY COMMUNITY CENTER, SRSLY.
2] Too much Ros. I thought she was only an early episode exposition prop, but no, SHE LIVES ON.
3] King's Landing. I have the same gripes. Come Dorne and Mireen and such It'll seem so... indifferent.
4] Generally I'd like more establishing shots.
5] More scenes for the little people and general everyday discussion/character interaction.
6] More exciting fighting wouldn't go a miss, though I am loving Arya/Syrio and the Dothraki.
7] A longer season! QAQ It's so good!
I've had no problems with vocab, actually. I always said it 'KKI-' as well, and I'm English. But people always read things differently.
Oh, and 8] More Addy. Yes, George. Just bring him back.
...I know, George.
...I don't care George, just bring him back. Loved Addy.
May 27th, 2011, 02:01 PM #39
A question for any sociologists, economists, demographers etc who may be on the premises. In the rather maligned hunting scene, Renly said that "millions" died in Robert's War. Millions? Really? That seems far more than such a society could support, let alone lose. Am I wrong in this assumption?
May 27th, 2011, 02:15 PM #40
I'm not a sociologist, but;
Westeros is supposed to be the size of South America, right? Far bigger than England, in any route. That's one way I've heard - the second way is most of Western Europe, either way, bigger.
Today Millions can equate to one major city and it's districts. In those times, not so much.
In terms of army sizes - 40,000 Dothraki could pose a threat?
I seem to remember that someone only had 12,000 men at the Battle of Bosworth. The army sizes discussed for the Seven Kingdoms I don't remember, though. I'm sure Jaime didn't take too many to the Whispering Wood, but then, they did fail...
Probably just Renly being overly dramatic, though.
May 27th, 2011, 02:35 PM #41
My only real quibble is The Others. HBO totally screwed that up.
From GOT, Pages 8 and 9
"A shadow emerged from the dark of the wood. It stood in front of Royce. Tall, it was, and gaunt and hard as old bones, with flesh pale as milk. Its armor seemed to change color as it moved, here it was white as new-fallen snow, there black as shadow, everywhere dappled with the deep grey-green of the trees. The patterns ran like moonlight on water with every step it took."
"The Other slid forward on silent feet. In its hand was a longsword like none that Will had ever seen. No human metal had gone into the forging of that blade. It was alive with moonlight, translucent, a shard of crystal so thin that it seemed almost to vanish when seen edge-on. There was a faint blue shimmer to the thing, a ghost-light that played around its edges, and somehow Will knew it was sharper than any razor."
Why HBO changed that is beyond me. Martin's description of The Others is superb. It has been so many years since I have read GOT that I forgot just how cool that section was. The HBO Others are almost comical in comparison.
May 27th, 2011, 02:47 PM #42
May 27th, 2011, 05:53 PM #43
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May 28th, 2011, 07:20 AM #44Does gold really melt that quickly, that easily?
But, like we heard, some cities pay tribute to the Dothraki and with them being 'uneducated savages' and all, they likely just plated or painted the stuff. xD
May 29th, 2011, 10:14 PM #45
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My biggest quibble with the series so far has been the extraneous sex/nudity scenes - such as the manscaping scene and pretty much anything with Ros. I'd count them among the weakest scenes in the series. The sex + exposition combo just made them feel silly at times, and probably undermined the information being delivered, particularly in the Littlefinger scene. That's just the influence of HBO, I suppose, and only a small downside given they have the freedom to make other, more important scenes the right way.
To be fair, an example of this done right was the Viserys/Doreah scene where they took a Tyrion/Jon conversation from the book (about the dragon skulls) and gave it to Viserys to give him more screen time. It works out since they gave Tyrion a bunch of other characters' dialogue at the Wall, such as Donal Noye's lecture about Jon's training advantage.