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January 12th, 2012, 02:16 PM #31
January 12th, 2012, 02:27 PM #32
Epic SF and Space Opera: Here's my giant list, what's missing?) but you can always ask questions about some of the books in that thread, so don't fret about "I was beginning to think I wouldn't find anything"
Jack McDevitt's Alex Benedict series which begins with A Talent for War, from the couple of books I read, is fun.
The Uplift Saga by David Brin is very well regarded. I plan on reading at least one or two of them this year.
Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap cycle (though tough to track down) is highly regarded Space Opera, it is modeled/based on Richard Wagner's Opera The Ring of the Nibelung. I tracked down a full set of US MMPBs and will be reading it soon, too.
January 12th, 2012, 02:36 PM #33
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+1 on the The Uplift Saga by David Brin...the sheer creativity and world building...awesome. There is a reason folks still talk about that 20-30? year old series.
Folks also really dig the Mote in God's Eye series which if I recall right was co-written by Niven and Pournelle. Another very creative alien race, massive space battles, humanity threatened, etc. To me, that is what space opera is all about.
I tend to think the Miles Vorkosigan books are beach reads, without the scope and imagination that to me marks a "space opera" but folks do like them, and I havent read that many.
I agree with you on the dubious value of giant lists. However, the threads where people vote their all time favorite -- and Rob usually links a bunch when he gets in one of his linking frenzies, are infinitely more valuable.
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January 12th, 2012, 02:39 PM #34
Has anyone read the Mageworld series by Debra Doyle and James D macdonald? Are they any good?
January 12th, 2012, 03:24 PM #35
I read the preview of one of the Uplift novels on Amazon and wasn't impressed with the writing. Then I read some reviews on another site, and people said Brin wasn't a good writer, and the characters were pretty bad. But I don't know, haha.
January 12th, 2012, 03:33 PM #36
January 12th, 2012, 10:13 PM #37
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Also loved The Gap cycle. Slower paced but if you want character development, Donaldson does it better then any of the aforementioned authors. Takes a disgusting antagonist in Angus Thermopyle and has you rooting for him in the end.
January 12th, 2012, 10:17 PM #38
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January 30th, 2012, 02:46 PM #40
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Advices on Space Opera
I would like some advices about some Space operas.
Firstly, I have read a lot of topic on this forum. Therefore I have read a lot of lists (or best list) from different people. So why a new thread ? because there are a lot of advices but I'm a bit lost between all these advices to be honest. Some people dislike what some other people like and it makes it a bit complicated to make a choice that could match what I am looking for. apologies if you feel like repeating yourself but I think that each of us like very specific kind of SF...
Background : I have read some SF when I was a teenager (between 15 and 20 years old), Series like Dune, Hyperion, foundation... I have read as well some more specific SF like Bradbury or Zelasny (but the short stories style and very naked SF style are not my favourite)
I would say that for me, Foundation from Asimov is one of the top (on the opposite, I did not like all his robot short stories and novels). The first book of Dune is at a high place in my collection (But I must admit that I loved a lot the movie from David lynch so maybe I'm a bit partial about it). Hyperion is really great but it is sometimes a bit too far from "humanity" for me, it is a world that is too different from a human world and it makes it difficult to imagine.
I would say that the top for me would be something that mix Foundation and maybe a more paced military/spacebattle adventures. I guess I would have enjoyed to read a "battlestar galactica" if it exists as book (though I would not read them, I do not like to know the story in advance).
I did not read any SF during 15 years (I should say I did not read at all). I decided to read again and I chose a bit randomly to read Gary Gibson (Stealing light, nova war and Empire of light from the shoal sequence) and I really enjoyed it. Simple, fast paced and all the ingredients I like were in the book. I recommend this book to whoever wants like me to start to read again some SF. Maybe I'm wrong but I think a lot of SF fan will think that the Shoal sequence is a bit too simple...??
Another important point : English is not my first language. though I'm leaving in an english language country (UK) since 5 years, it is not always easy to read in english for me, depends how are written books I guess. Therefore, I think it is important to have this point in mind when advising.
I have read this forum in details and my next choice (just bought it) is Peter F hamilton Dawn's night trilogy. I just read 4 or 5 pages of the reality dysfunction and it seems all-right, thought a lot of "technical" terms hard to understand but I guess I will get use to it. I was quite attracted by Ian M banks but after reading a lot of reviews on it, I have the impression that It is a bit hard SF and I will have some difficulties to enter into it...??? Maybe a wrong impression ??
So here is my little background in SF, all advises are highly welcome, thanks in advance.
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January 30th, 2012, 02:56 PM #41
Also, Mark L. Van Name's Jon and Lobo novels are fun Space Opera adventure novels, the first couple of novels are available in omnibus format: Jump Gate Twist.
January 30th, 2012, 03:03 PM #42
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January 30th, 2012, 03:21 PM #43
Also, Lois McMaster Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan novels are terrific and cover many bases of SF - Adventure, Space Opera, some Military SF, genetic manipulation. Regardless, the books in the series I've read are very good and many books in the series have been nominated or won genre awards.
January 30th, 2012, 06:26 PM #44
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Have you tried the last Gary Gibson? If you liked the Shoal books, I think that Final Days you'll like.
Neal Asher might be worth a try. Try Gridlinked.
For Iain M Banks, try The Player of Games Less epic than many of the Culture, it's a good place to start.
And thinking about how easy these books are to get Alastair Reynolds Blue Remembered Earth (out in the UK now, the US later in the year) is a good place to start.
Of the older stuff: Jack Campbell Rob's suggested, Jack McDevitt I would add also. Good page turners without too much complication. John Scalzi's Old Man's War is stylistically very easy to get along with too. Not Space Opera as such (not quite the epic scale!) but a cracking read.
Even older: Glen Cook's SF I think is great. (His Fantasy too but that's another story.) Try The Starfishers series, starting with Shadowline. The Dragon Never Sleeps is an underrated book.
Should keep you going!
January 30th, 2012, 11:17 PM #45
If you read DUNE and HYPERION without difficulty in understanding, can't imagine you would have too much trouble with Banks's Culture series. Banks is about the best thing going right now. I love Al Reynolds's stuff too but you should go with the later stuff rather than the REVELATION SPACE trilogy.
For military SF I think you could do worse than to read the Starfire series from Steve White and David Weber. Very good battle scenes and an interesting universe.