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  1. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by krisbslick View Post
    Yes, definitely go for the void trilogy, if you have the time. I think I waited a total of 5 years for the releases of all 3 of these books in the US (in paperback) and it was well worth the wait! Hamilton is the best! And it's best if you read them all back to back, as I found out the hard way. I got Dreaming Void, read it, and then had to wait forever for Temporal Void to come out, and the same for Evolutionary.

    It's really too close to tell, but I'd say the void trilogy was as good, if not better, than the commonwealth saga. But still, I'd say Night's Dawn is at the top. I never want his novels to end!

    Also, if you don't have the time to devote to a trilogy, I thought Fallen Dragon was very, very good as well.


    Hello all,

    You were right the Void is top notch ! finished it 2 weeks ago, I loved it to bits ! Quite similar in some ways, for the epic, to Night's dawn trilogy . I think it is compulsory to read the commonwealth saga before.

    So for now, if you want to read Hamilton, I would read finally :

    1) The commonwealth Saga (to start slowly )
    2) The Void
    3) Night's dawn

    Even if it is long time I have not read SF, I'm personally rating Hamilton in the kind of Asimov or Dan Simmons, not a genre of space-Opera author, but THE space-opera authors It is full-on, with rich details and all the ingredients you need to enjoy a good book. It is indeed a bit slow at start but worth the effort.



    I haven't yet read Leviathan Wakes but it's on my TBR pile and I'm looking forward to it. I can understand why so many people are put off by Hamilton. I think it comes down to a matter of taste. If you like the action and plot to take off from the word go and discover the universe as you're pulled along then Hamilton won't be your guy.
    Hamilton likes to set up his universe in rich detail; he's very good at it and he comes at you from multiple story-threads often leaving the reader at a cliff-hanger moment then segwaying into a completely different story thread. All these threads seem unrelated at first and half the fun of his stories is seeing how they gradually wind together into powerful story lines. His stories tend to start off slow and build into a furious finish. Some people like that (I do) and some people want their action right away. There's no right or wrong to it, just a matter of taste.
    I actually started reading Hamilton with Pandora's Star and felt half-lost until I read the chapter that introduced the evolution of the motile aliens. Everything seemed to click for me at that point and I was hooked and have been devouring Hamilton's books ever since.
    I agree with you, it is indeed subjective.

    I have also finally finished Leviathan Wakes yesterday.


    Spoiler:
    Good Book, a little sweet between 2 big chocolate cake from Hamilton . Fast book to read, too fast maybe... I see why people could talk about Hamilton a tiny bit. The plot is epic in some ways.

    But seriously, it is too fast. Miss some descriptions in my perspective..Descriptions are important to make you imagine the world the author is creating and to enter a bit more into the book. it seemed a bit weak for me on this point as I found it difficult to imagine the environment several times (the Belt, Eros, Ceres..).

    Regarding the characterization, It think it is quite a success to make us like his characters, even if it is fast. Simple characters but loveable.

    Nice, twisting and interesting plot. (A bit scared when the zombie story started but finally, relieved )

    Miss totally of some political and religious views, just action Hamilton is a bit more interesting on this side I think.

    Overall, I liked it and I will buy Caliban's war, there is a lot of potential here but he should write 300 pages more full of description and characterization


    I went today to my favourite book shop but no Caliban's war will have to order on the web. I decided to buy Consider Phlebas to give a try to Ian Banks.


    I'm waiting with impatience for the new Hamilton in September.

    Did somebody read the thousand emperors from Gary Gibson ? I liked his first trilogy Stealing the light.
    Last edited by Rob B; August 14th, 2012 at 12:36 PM. Reason: Added spoiler tags [SPOILER] [/SPOILER]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota View Post
    Hello all,

    You were right the Void is top notch ! finished it 2 weeks ago, I loved it to bits ! Quite similar in some ways, for the epic, to Night's dawn trilogy . I think it is compulsory to read the commonwealth saga before.

    So for now, if you want to read Hamilton, I would read finally :

    1) The commonwealth Saga (to start slowly )
    2) The Void
    3) Night's dawn

    Even if it is long time I have not read SF, I'm personally rating Hamilton in the kind of Asimov or Dan Simmons, not a genre of space-Opera author, but THE space-opera authors It is full-on, with rich details and all the ingredients you need to enjoy a good book. It is indeed a bit slow at start but worth the effort.





    I agree with you, it is indeed subjective.

    I have also finally finished Leviathan Wakes yesterday.

    Spoiler:
    Good Book, a little sweet between 2 big chocolate cake from Hamilton . Fast book to read, too fast maybe... I see why people could talk about Hamilton a tiny bit. The plot is epic in some ways.

    But seriously, it is too fast. Miss some descriptions in my perspective..Descriptions are important to make you imagine the world the author is creating and to enter a bit more into the book. it seemed a bit weak for me on this point as I found it difficult to imagine the environment several times (the Belt, Eros, Ceres..).

    Regarding the characterization, It think it is quite a success to make us like his characters, even if it is fast. Simple characters but loveable.

    Nice, twisting and interesting plot. (A bit scared when the zombie story started but finally, relieved )

    Miss totally of some political and religious views, just action Hamilton is a bit more interesting on this side I think.

    Overall, I liked it and I will buy Caliban's war, there is a lot of potential here but he should write 300 pages more full of description and characterization

    I went today to my favourite book shop but no Caliban's war will have to order on the web. I decided to buy Consider Phlebas to give a try to Ian Banks.


    I'm waiting with impatience for the new Hamilton in September.

    Did somebody read the thousand emperors from Gary Gibson ? I liked his first trilogy Stealing the light.
    Yeah I wanna read Stealing Light. I know Liviu really like Thousand Emperors, he has a good review over on FBC.
    Last edited by Rob B; August 14th, 2012 at 12:37 PM.

  3. #78
    Hello All,

    I have continued my quest and re-discovery of Science-fiction, especially the one called "Space opera" ! Sorry do not mean to steal this thread but I feel like talking about my last readings (chosen with all your good advises).

    I let you on my way to Ian M Banks. As several people were recommending Mr Banks, I gave it a good try. I read Consider Phlebas, The player of the game and Use of weapon from the Culture series.

    Lets be honest : I have been overall disappointed, Maybe I have been not enough focused (summer, holidays etc) but definitly, I'm not a Banks Fan. I did not appreciate at all Consider Phlebas, never really entered in the story, I had the impression that there were some books missing before and after to explain all the context of the Culture universe. I enjoyed and found the player of the game much more interesting, fun, original and entertaining. I was really waiting for something great with Use of weapons as a lot of people seemed to have enjoyed this one but , finally, never really enjoyed a lot the book. Strange characters, some sort of Anti-heros (a bit like some manga boy I thought, a bit dark characters)...Lots of Jump between the heros past and present, A bit lost sometimes, not too sure what the author was following...Yep A bit disappointed overall. Maybe I will give a try again later, Maybe that was not the right time or the right mood to read Banks. It is not crap, do not get me wrong but, imho, far from an Hamilton for example, If comparable.

    After my Banks month, I decided to return to something more classical that I have never read : Alastair Reynolds. I went for Pushing Ice as several people recommended it to start on Reynolds. Really enjoyed this book (being honest I forgot the book somewhere and I just retrieved it and I still have some pages to read for the end), Great science fiction, Reynolds goes far in his own idea and scenario, great scale. A bit strange characters, friends one day et enemies the other day, they kill easily, a bit unbelievable human relationships but really a nice not boring book that you want to continuesly read. Maybe found somebody of the talent of Hamilton ??

    As I said a bit earlier on this page, I wanted to continue on the expanse series and I bought Caliban's war last weekend. I'm already 100 pages in Caliban's war and it is, for now, breathtaking. It is absolutely fast paced and have more point of view than Leviathan Wakes, which makes the plot and story more complex and interesting. Still missing something compare to guys like Hamilton but good improvement compare to the first book...A bit scared how it will end and how the author will make something good out of all htese stories, lets see.

    And Finally, I do not know if I'm lucky, but I found in Waterstones Picadilly (London) the Zones of Thoughts of Venor Vinge (it is 2 books in one, the fire upon the deep and the deepness in the sky). It has been recommended several times on this thread and I have read wonderfull critics, maybe the best Space Opera of all time (wow). I have read the prologue and already it smells the good cooking :P I will finish Caliban's war first and then will start this VERY BIG 2 books in one !

    Plan also to Buy Great North road but the one I have seen is too big and hard paper publish. Will wait for a smaller edition.
    Last edited by Dakota; October 9th, 2012 at 05:31 PM.

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