HBO's Game of Thrones Season Two [SPOILERS for EVERYTHING ASOIAF!!]

**teahupoo** · April 1st, 2012, 11:52 PM

With the second season starting in the US on 1st April and in the UK April 2nd, here's where you can discuss Season Two.

Note: Season One discussed HERE.

Non Spoiler thread is HERE.

WARNING: Here be spoilers: for the books, for Season One. You have been warned!

Mark

And now, over to teahupoo:

Well i just watched season 2 episode 1. A few scenes were a bit disappointing.

Overall it was good.

**Ozziespur** · April 2nd, 2012, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by teahupoo

Well i just watched season 2 episode 1. A few scenes were a bit disappointing.

Overall it was good.

How did you manage that ? I thought it wasn't out til later in the month ?

**Loerwyn** · April 2nd, 2012, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Ozziespur

How did you manage that ? I thought it wasn't out til later in the month ?

No, it starts this weekend in a number of countries. Yesterday was the US, tonight it's the UK's turn.

**AuntiePam** · April 2nd, 2012, 10:56 AM

I'm so glad HBO repeats all week. It's hard to take it all in on just one viewing.

My favorite scene was Cersei and Littlefinger. It was interesting visually too, with the overhead viewpoint -- it was like a dance when her guards moved back and turned around. "Power is power." Heh. But it's telling that she needs guards. Second favorite scene was Cersei and Joffrey -- the slap and Cersei's fear. Third favorite was Sansa playing Joffrey like a fiddle and saving that guy's life.

Aiden Gillen's (Littlefinger) voice sounded different. Did anyone else think so? Maybe he had a cold.

I'm curious as to how Robert's bastard children were located. A poorly kept secret -- common knowledge?

Stannis -- he reminds me of the corporate CEO who dots the i's and crosses the t's but doesn't see the big picture.

**werewolfv2** · April 2nd, 2012, 11:00 AM

I had forgotten it would be on last night, but thank god for channel surfing right on time to find it lol!

**Rob B** · April 2nd, 2012, 11:14 AM

Fair warning that the entirety of Game of Thrones Season 2 was leaked.

**Darksbane** · April 2nd, 2012, 02:50 PM

Wert has a great primer for season 2, if you need a bit of a refresher.

I saw the first episode, but I think I'm going to try and catch it again on HBO tonight as I was a bit dozy the first time around. I thought it was well done, especially the bit with Cersei and Littlefinger.

**Loerwyn** · April 2nd, 2012, 04:07 PM

Episode 1 Thoughts:

1. Tyrion wins.
2. Tony Way was miles better than I expected.
3. Daenerys' horse went down on its left side with its legs to the right. Subsequent scenes showed it on the right with its legs to the left.
4. Really like that wild(er) woman with Brann and Hodor. She's awesome.
5. Lady with lots of fire - Melissandre?
6. Stannis... um... is he Robert's brother? Oh, so he is.
7. Dunno who the Davos bloke is, either.
8. Oh, Honour rears its head in the Baratheon (Right?) house.
9. Old bloke going nuts, obviously up to something. Oh look...
10. "Yer grace" "Yer grace" "Yer grace"
11. Direwolves look okay. A little too CGI, but not bad.
12. Littlefinger = WIN.

13. Knowledge is Power. So, so, so true.
14. Stuff I kinda didn't wholly get 'cos I forgot everything. Just talk of amassing an army. Which one's Renl(e)y?
15. Still hate Joffrey. Wanna punch that little brat in the face.
16. Repeatedly.
17. Without mercy.
18. Don't speak to your mother like that!
19. Lol, he squeaks still!
20. Bloody hell, she's loud.
21. Oh wow. Whoa. What?!
22. Ohhhhhh, I get it now. They're looking for that blacksmith. Why the baby slaughter?
23. Arya!

So, yeah, pretty good I thought, but I kinda hoped Brienne would be in it.

**saintjon** · April 2nd, 2012, 04:23 PM

The baby slaughter is because all of those kids together form the backbone of Ned, Stannis and Jon Arryn's position that Joffrey is an incest bastard. They were all Robert's bastards and not a one of them had the blonde hair thing happening.

I give the episode 9.5/10. It lost half a point because that girl was very loud.

**Loerwyn** · April 2nd, 2012, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintjon

The baby slaughter is because all of those kids together form the backbone of Ned, Stannis and Jon Arryn's position that Joffrey is an incest bastard. They were all Robert's bastards and not a one of them had the blonde hair thing happening.

Oh. That didn't come across too well.

**Darksbane** · April 2nd, 2012, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Loerwyn

22. Ohhhhhh, I get it now. They're looking for that blacksmith. Why the baby slaughter?

They weren't only looking for the blacksmith. They were looking for all of Robert's bastards, or possible bastards.

EDIT: beaten. You're right though, if you didn't read the book, that whole thing could be a little confusing.

**Loerwyn** · April 2nd, 2012, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Darksbane

They weren't only looking for the blacksmith. They were looking for all of Robert's bastards, or possible bastards.

Bit of cross-posting going on, but your point about not 'only' looking for him makes sense 'cos I didn't think of the age difference

**Jon Sprunk** · April 2nd, 2012, 04:55 PM

I enjoyed the episode, but I didn't love it. Too many short, choppy scenes. There's so much information to cover that it's starting to feel like the show is being told in shorthand -- the characters speak a couple vital things and then off to another scene.

This might get me cyber-crucified by the uber-fans, but I think this show needs to cut back the plot with a battleaxe. A great book can get away with some loose sideplots that end up meaning little-to-nothing in the grand scheme, but a mini-series like this suffers when it tries to cover too many bases. Better scriptwriters, imo, would have nixed several of these storylines from the start and focused on those that really mattered.

**imaster** · April 2nd, 2012, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jon Sprunk

This might get me cyber-crucified by the uber-fans, but I think this show needs to cut back the plot with a battleaxe. A great book can get away with some loose sideplots that end up meaning little-to-nothing in the grand scheme, but a mini-series like this suffers when it tries to cover too many bases. Better scriptwriters, imo, would have nixed several of these storylines from the start and focused on those that really mattered.

I said the exact same thing going home from our little GoT-party but no one seemed to agree with me. I am one of those uberfans, of the books at least, but I can clearly see your point.

That said, I really think things are starting to heat up now, I firmly believe S2 is going to top S1 as long as they can keep the story tight.

**PeterWilliam** · April 2nd, 2012, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by AuntiePam

My favorite scene was Cersei and Littlefinger. It was interesting visually too, with the overhead viewpoint -- it was like a dance when her guards moved back and turned around. "Power is power." Heh.

Absolutely, this.

ETA: I had intended to not watch the series anymore, as I didn't think I'd be interested - but the show's opening was rolling along with it's little clockwork models and, well, glued to the tube I was.