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    I like SF. SF is cool. Steven L Jordan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkMonkey View Post
    As far as I know no other species on this planet has discovered mathematics.
    Kinda hard to say for sure, since you can't ask them...

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    I see what you did there.

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    I think the idea that other races will want to leave their own planet, to explore, colonize or conquer, just because we do, is a huge assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven L Jordan View Post
    I think the idea that other races will want to leave their own planet, to explore, colonize or conquer, just because we do, is a huge assumption.
    Would such people not become scientific and technologically advanced and not be able to do it anyway? And then their is the peculiar thing with Chinese exploration. They sent a fleet to Africa. They could have colonized Australia before the British. But they broke up the fleet and discontinued exploration instead.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He

    But for such an attitude to persist for thousands of years after a culture became technological would seem rather odd.

    psik

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    Regarding Ray Guns...

    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    That is so Star Trek. Off the top of my head I don't recall any SF literature that did this.
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    Does this count? Niven's Slaver Disintegrator?

    http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=558

    There was also Leslie Neilson's sidearm in Forbidden Planet. He used it to vaporize a tiger, but that was film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    That is so Star Trek. Off the top of my head I don't recall any SF literature that did this.

    Pretty sure it happened in at least one van Vogt I read recently and weren't 'Doc' Smith's planet busting dreadnoughts always obliterating all that stood in their path with their fulgent beams of coruscating energy...

    Oh, you said 'SF literature'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkMonkey View Post
    Oh, you said 'SF literature'....
    LMAO

    Indeed, can't recall an instance of a portable disintegrator beam in print before or even after Star Trek's era.

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    Spaceships Having wings-Really? there is no air in space to keep the craft afloat

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaGrangeCalvert View Post
    Spaceships Having wings-Really? there is no air in space to keep the craft afloat
    Have you ever heard of "The Space Shuttle?"

    Wings are necessary to go from space into a planet with atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaGrangeCalvert View Post
    Spaceships Having wings-Really? there is no air in space to keep the craft afloat
    This reminds me: One thing I dislike is when authors have a character point out that "even in the future" spaceships are ugly because they only need to be utilitarian. That after hundreds of years of science-fictional space travel a spaceship still looks like something designed by NASA, e.g. a giant skeleton frame with an engine at the end, spherical tanks at the front near the habitat. Bull. If the economy allows it, you can custom its appearance, or its very frame can be shaped in an esthetically-pleasing shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Day Myth View Post
    Have you ever heard of "The Space Shuttle?"

    Wings are necessary to go from space into a planet with atmosphere.



    All the Sci-Fi books I've read (Peter Hamilton;Orson Scott Card) had specific craft to go from planet to space and vice versa ... Think Of the Apollo 11 mission. Did the spacecraft actually land on the moon? No they had a lander Craft for that...

    And the Space shuttle was just that,a shuttle, I'm talking about interplanitary Space craft here
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Lunar_Module

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaGrangeCalvert View Post


    All the Sci-Fi books I've read (Peter Hamilton;Orson Scott Card) had specific craft to go from planet to space and vice versa ... Think Of the Apollo 11 mission. Did the spacecraft actually land on the moon? No they had a lander Craft for that...

    And the Space shuttle was just that,a shuttle, I'm talking about interplanitary Space craft here
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Lunar_Module
    You can have a mother ship with wing ships in a hanger bay as well as an all in one ship in the same story too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennarin View Post
    LMAO

    Indeed, can't recall an instance of a portable disintegrator beam in print before or even after Star Trek's era.
    please see my earlier post regarding Niven's slaver disintegrator.

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    Spaceships aren't ships either, they're spacecraft. So they don't have deck swabbers and bottle washers and rear turret gunner's mates. They also don't have flight decks or bridges. In fact, they're not even pointy at the front. And they're flown chiefly by computer - in fact some, like the Soyuz or Skylon, are flown entirely by computer - which means they don't really require pilots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pennarin View Post
    LMAO

    Indeed, can't recall an instance of a portable disintegrator beam in print before or even after Star Trek's era.
    Edison's Conquest of Mars

    The Foundation series

    The Martian Chronicles

    The Perry Rhodan series

    There have been many others... Gene Roddenberry certainly didn't invent them.

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