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    What do I think about it?

    Where are the pants?

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    Ha, yeah, I heard they were planning on putting all the female characters in pants. I read an interview on Comics Alliance where the DC editors discuss the pants:

    CA: I had heard a rumor that after the relaunch that all the female characters would involve pants, although the recent Supergirl costume change seems to debunk that. Was there any consideration given to changing the costumes, particularly in terms of the disproportionately large amount of skin exposed on female characters in comparison with male characters?

    EB: We looked at every hero, analyzing what's realistic within the realm of wearing a costume. Now, more and more people are being exposed to them on film. Look at what Green Lantern's wearing. Really, the sky's the limit. And that's not limited to gender. It's about what makes practical sense for a hero to put on.

    CA: Sure, but I think that we all know that costumes for female heroes are significantly more revealing in terms of skin. Was there ever a conversation about have a more equal and proportionate approach to men and women's costumes?

    BH: All the characters were looked at... That was across the board for all the 52 [new comics]. So I don't know where the pants thing came from because it was a very comprehensive look at what we were doing in September.

    EB: And for Hawkman, we kept the shirt off.
    A very PC answer, but I think from looking at the Catwoman cover it is pretty obvious that many of the female characters are portrayed merely as objects of T&A. Not what I'm looking for from comics.

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    Even when the characters are hot, I still find the stripperiffic aesthetic in comics very off-putting and ridiculous. One of the reasons I liked Watchmen was that the characters were flawed people with all sorts of hangups, fully cognizant of how ridiculous their predicament is.

    A good (and hilarious) deconstruction of the "sexy superheroine" ideal is found in Empowered, who is portrayed as a very reluctant hero and massively insecure about her body.

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    I don't mind it with Marvel too much as many of their characters are reasonably dressed, even if they've got massive melons. But what DC are doing is just beyond ridiculous, and I'm really unwilling to support them for it. I supported their Wonder Woman reboot not just because it was a new point to jump in, but because they'd given her a practical, modern and somewhat modest costume. I have no qualms with the classic one, of course, but I liked what they did.

    DC've got - Well, had - a prominent disabled character (Barbara Gordon), one of the first openly lesbian superheroes (Batwoman) and so forth. This reboot is just a step backward for them. Rather than moving in the direction they were, with decent costumes for female characters such as the last Batgirl and Wonder Woman, they're stripping them down and changing things that shouldn't be changed (Such as Barbara Gordon - If they were going to 'heal' her, it should have been soon after The Killing Joke, not this far into the future).

    It's not an "Oh, these characters are exploitation of the female form!" or anything, it's just simply that I'm of the mind that DC are going backwards, rather than forwards.

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    I don't know that DC deserves all the blame. I think both Marvel and DC need to step their games up and present their female characters in a more realistic light. Clothing is only part of it. The bodies on those women are ridiculous. Not really a great representation of the female form, nor are they giving their young female readers that they are trying to wrangle appropriate role models. Its sad because some of those characters have great potential, but they are reduced to T&A by the writers and artists.

    You say that the reboot is like a step backwards for DC's female characters, and I agree, not only for the reasons you mentioned, but also because the reboot features less female writers and artists.

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    In other reboot news I heard the Action Comics title is gonna feature a whole new Superman origin story so that DC doesn't have to cough up $$$ to simon and schuster for the rights.

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    Marvel have Big Bertha

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    Ordered a nice little bundle for myself. I placed orders for these today:
    B.P.R.D. Omnibus vol. #2 (Pre-Order; Releases in September)
    The Dark Tower - The Fall of Gilead (HC)
    The Dark Tower - The Battle of Jericho Hill (HC)
    The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger - The Journey Begins (HC)
    The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger - The Little Sisters of Eluria (HC)
    Morning Glories vol. #1

    Yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loerwyn View Post
    Ordered a nice little bundle for myself. I placed orders for these today:
    B.P.R.D. Omnibus vol. #2 (Pre-Order; Releases in September)
    The Dark Tower - The Fall of Gilead (HC)
    The Dark Tower - The Battle of Jericho Hill (HC)
    The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger - The Journey Begins (HC)
    The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger - The Little Sisters of Eluria (HC)
    Morning Glories vol. #1

    Yay.
    Nice pickups L.

    I read the first issue of Screamland today. Wasn't impressed.

    The comic is about old school movie monsters who are out of style these days due to green screens and CGI. They now roam the convention circuit trying to make some dough. The Invisible Man decides it'll be a good idea to leak a porno that was filmed during some orgy party of the past that features many of these old movie monsters.

    I thought a comic with a wolfman, blob, robo-brain, and other seemingly cool characters would be entertaining but it wasn't. There wasn't anything that hooked me, so I wont be reading this one again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corporal Blues View Post
    Nice pickups L.
    The only problem is I have to wait until 2012 for the next Dark Tower graphic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loerwyn View Post
    The only problem is I have to wait until 2012 for the next Dark Tower graphic
    The good news is that there are so many other awesome comics out there worth reading. If you need recommendations let me know, I might be able to help out.

    Those BPRD omnibuses are great...hardcover, and cheaper than buying the comics contained in the omnibus in TPB version. When I finally get around to reading BPRD that's the way I'll read 'em.

    Let me know what you think about Morning Glories...I've heard mixed reviews.

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    The BPRD ones are good, yeah, but this is only the second one so BPRD is going to take a few years to read at this rate. The price difference isn't all that much, about £4 in total (At least using Amazon/TBD), but it's been valuable to have them available as, annoyingly, BPRD vol 1 and 4 were a pain to get new or at a reasonable used price.

    And I will let you know, don't worry. I'm half-looking forward to it.

    I almost ordered the Scott Pilgrim boxset, and Lost at Sea by the same author. Not sure what stopped me, though.

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    I loved the Scott Pilgrim comics. Very funny stuff. My reviews of the first two Scott Pilgrim trades are up here at SFF World under the comic tab.

    I own Lost at Sea, but haven't read it yet.

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    I don't read comics too often. I have picked up the Scott Pilgrim books recently, partly due to the movie (which I loved) and partly due to the author is from the same city as me. I really enjoyed the comics as well as I will admit to some nerd/geek tendencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corporal Blues View Post
    I loved the Scott Pilgrim comics. Very funny stuff. My reviews of the first two Scott Pilgrim trades are up here at SFF World under the comic tab.
    Will give them a look

    Amazon are being really slow this week. I ordered stuff on Tuesday morning and usually it ships by Wednesday morning at the latest, but absolutely nothing has shipped yet. Drat

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    I don't usually remark on my progress through a series, but I've just reached number 29 in Groo the Wanderer and a new character enters the epic:


    I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship

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