Doctor Who - OMG! It's true! It's true!

[fluffy bunny]

I guess I'm not the only one who found End of Time part 1 a bit iffy. It reminded me of the convoluted plot needed to bring the master back in the failed Dr Who pilot starring McGann.

I've got no issues with Timothy Dalton being in it - he made a great camp character in Flash Gordon and Hot Fuzz - it really depends what they intend to do with him. I am worried that the episode will end up as a convoluted 'reset button' for the series allowing Moffat to do what he wants with who next yr- fine for next yr but I want Tennant's swansong to be good and not just a special effects fest.

[Rulkez]

Massive improvement for part 2, LOVED it .

[Hoodwink]

Garbage, again.

Eastenders with some sci-fi (you're an alien time-lord with a time-machine. Do you want to see Alpha-centauri? The fall of the Roman empire? The American wild-west? No, let's keep going back to London in 2009, and dress like we're from Camden).

Wish fulfullment, endless melodrama, props as characters and so many contrivances that, if it were a book, I'd put it down. It suffered the same flaws as the Matrix and Pirates of the Carribean by trying to throw every element the writers could think of as if kitchen sink plotting equates to high drama.

On the upside, I appreciated David Tennant's charismatic presence, and it's always a joy to watch the marvellous Bernard Cribbins (even though his character is the worst culprit of the soap melodrama).

If they dump the hack Russel T Davies in the Thames, employ some talented writers and get over the London-is-the-center-of-the-universe crap, it might be salvagable one day.

[Wulfa_Jones]

The story was a little weak. I think there must have been about 20 minutes of actual plot over the 2+ hours of programming. Actually, in retrospect, the story was quite good, but just far to drawn out and over complicated with techno-babble.

As for the ending... it was lazy, schmaltzy and nice!

I shall now go into spoiler mode:

So yeah, I think in the end the plot was quite good, but contained far too little meat to be fleshed out over two hour long episodes. It could have been much better had to build up dealt with better in part one. I liked the idea of the power mad Time Lords trying to save themselves at the expense of the rest of time. I didn’t mind the whole thing with them using the Master to a link, although IMO it could have been written better/clearer. The stuff with the Doctor and Wilf was a little odd, they’ve only meant a handful of times and you’d think they were best buddies. As for the subplot with Donna… that really didn’t go anywhere. I was also getting a little concerned with the Doctor’s love letter to the Master… “you are so beautiful…” I swear I thought they were going to start to make out. Wouldn’t have surprised me either. Heavy use of deus ex machina was on display again - Rassilon literally undid all the Masters work with a flick of his magic glove. Am I the only one also thinking that the Time War sounds amazing? Things like the Nightmare Child? I was hoping that the Time Lords would have been successful and then we could have had a solid season of the Doctor involved in the Time War again. I did like the thing with Wilf knocking four times, that was a nice touch. Although the Doctor freaking out seemed a little out of character. The last twenty minutes… I am really torn on it. It was sooo cheesy and aimed to tug at the heart strings… but it worked. Had I not been such a cynical man I might have had a tear in my eye (nearly did in Avatar as well, must be getting sentimental in my old age). It was good to see all the characters again and have everything tidied up for when Moffat comes in, although I did liked the shared universe and the life after the Doctor for companions that RTD created and hope that isn’t forgotten about. Also, the older lady Time Lord Wilf kept seeing… the Doctor’s mother or Donna? While a sentimental ending was nice, the Doctor’s method of passing was bitter sweet. Survived the Master and sending the crazy Time Lords back only to die from radiation poisoning (which has happened before). Matt Smith… while I am looking forward to him in the role, his regeneration was a little too much like David Tennant’s thing with the whole “new teeth”. Hope when Moffat writes the character he’ll have a totally different personality from the 10th Doctor.

Okay, enough rambling from me. Over all it was a little bit messy, but I suppose it was a good bow out.

[Hobbit]

It was OK: despite all my moans and groans, sad to see Tennant go, not too impressed with the way he went, almost like a 2 year old having a tantrum.

It's an interesting one, though: how about that for a final last line? Not one of the Doctor's greatest.

I still have confidence with Moffat: he knows his stuff and knows what's at stake if he gets it wrong. The transformation wasn't that different to Tennant's, admittedly, but it keeps that continuity going. The changes will happen later, starting with the replacement of that god-awful Tardis interior.

Looking at the trailer later that was just 'the new guy', I think there's enough there to keep us going. And

more of the statues from Blink!

Looking forward to it already.

Mark

[Wulfa_Jones]

I'll echo that Mark. Having just watched Doctor Who Confidential, the clips at the end did spark some good memories of David Tennant as the Doctor. He did play the role well and RTD, for all my personal dislikes of his style, did bring the show back and could write some great dialogue.

As a long time fan of Who, both new and old, David Tennant's 10th Doctor easily stands as one of the most impressive and again, that character was developed by Russell T Davies.

However, out with the old and in with the exciting looking new... Geronimo!.

Weeping Angels, Vampires in renaissance Italy, River Song... role on Spring!