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    Good lord, is he ever not worth it IMO. Maybe they could just cg him snowboarding his way through a battle of five armies frame on some unlikely piece of weaponry or other...

    I'm kind of soured on this whole thing...

    There's been so much screwball development hell bs for what, ten years now? I was really interested in seeing what Guillermo del Toro would do with this. The whole thing just bums me out. Wake me up when this thing's in theaters. Half of those actors don't look the slightest bit dwarf-like to me either. Props to Mark Hadlow though I guess.

    Edit: Yeah I just checked the OP and it's kind of depressing that Juzzz (where are you man?) started this thread 6 years ago. Has anyone ever said, "You know, I'm really glad that movie had Orlando Bloom in it." Okay maybe people... maybe women have said that. Has anyone ever said, "You know, Orlando Bloom was even more believable than usual as a blacksmith in this movie." He was fine in Fellowship, other than that I can't say I've ever really been blow away by the guy.
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    Don't be depressed! Those 10 years of development hell sure sucked, but now it's finally happening... for REAL! Filming starts next month!

    I'm sure PJ will make some of the same mistakes he did with LOTR, but in all honesty I think he'll do a better job than GDT would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Agent View Post
    I think he'll do a better job than GDT would have.
    Same. Don't get me wrong, I liked the Hellboy films, but they were so disconnected from the comics that I've begun to like them less and less.

    GDT is good at "Oh, Gods, my brain just melted" films - Neither The Hobbit nor LotR are like that, and I think GDT's talent would be wasted on the films - And the source material, in return, would be wasted on him.

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    I disagree. The Hobbit is more of a "magical mystery tour" sort of story than the Lord of the Rings, which is more of a sweeping epic and as such I think it's the kind of story that GDT has more of a gift for. Furthermore, I already have pretty good idea of how the films will look if Peter Jackson does them, now I'll never know what sort of visuals we will be missing out on with the goblin king, Mirkwood, the halls of Thranduil... Smaug's lair. Bums me out.

    Like I said wake me up when this thing hits theaters.

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    I understand "familiar characters" from LOTR-from a non LOTR reader pov.

    But (IMO) Wood as Frodo "introducing" the story, Gladariel being in there to connect them, I'm not a big fan of it, but I understand what they are trying to do.

    They're trying to essentially make Hobbit and LOTR one long narrative. Jackson deserves the chance to do this without judgement, he pulled off LOTR nicely, and while GDT would have been an interesting vision, Jackson makes perfect sense to "finish" it with The Hobbit-at the very least the "familiar" characters will be consistent with the LOTR.

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    Thing is, Jackson's last two films saw him expand a pretty simple story into an over-long epic (King Kong) and adapt a book whose point he seemed to miss (The Lovely Bones). And now he seems to be doing both with The Hobbit. There's plenty here to be apprehensive about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintjon View Post
    Furthermore, I already have pretty good idea of how the films will look if Peter Jackson does them, now I'll never know what sort of visuals we will be missing out on with the goblin king, Mirkwood, the halls of Thranduil... Smaug's lair. Bums me out.
    Not true!

    The majority of the design work was finished before GDT left the project. He had a lot of input on it, and it sounds like they're still going to use most of it (Smaug, for example). The truth is, there's simply no time to redesign anything even if they wanted to. You will still see much of GDT's "vision" on the screen, which I agree would be a good thing. I was particularly excited to see GDT's re-design of the wargs. I hated Jackson's wargs, and GDT said he would make them look more like traditional wolves of Scandinavian mythology. Hopefully that's still the case.

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    Has anyone heard when the first "part" is supposed to end at?

    I would think the arrival at Smaugs lair, or maybe they close the first film with Bilbo casting his first gaze on the sleeping Smaug, in all his glory with the Arkenstone possibly winking in the light, then we cut to "to be continued"

    I mean, they aren't going to do the whole Hobbit story in one film and the 2nd be entirely the "filler" between Hobbit and LOTR they keep talking about?

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    Gandalf leaving Bilbo and the dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood seems like a good spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DailyRich View Post
    Gandalf leaving Bilbo and the dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood seems like a good spot.
    That's not bad either! With the Lonely Mountain looming in the background, as the camera cuts back.


    Someone mentioned Bloom, I would have no problem with him being the Mirkwood Elf king (though he'd have to channel his inner disdainful elf, how he interacts with the dwarves).

    Too bad about Rhys Davis not wanting to do it again-would have made perfect sense be Gloin-playing his own "sire"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja Ravenscroft View Post
    Someone mentioned Bloom, I would have no problem with him being the Mirkwood Elf king (though he'd have to channel his inner disdainful elf, how he interacts with the dwarves.
    The Mirkwood elf king is Thranduil, the father of Legolas. So Legolas won't play the king, but he could very well still be there as a prince.

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    Filming Begins March 21

    Well, filming is finally set to begin on March 21. It was supposed to start this month, but has been delayed because of Peter Jackson's recent stomach ulcer surgery. He's back home now, recovering.

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    Get your geek on - this is so exciting. B/W this and the Game of Thrones series, fantasy fans have lots of coolness to look forward to.

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    An Unexpected Party

    Here's a photo of the titular Hobbit and all thirteen dwarves (taken at a press conference today).



    Also, according to news from the press conference, the movie will stay true to the books in that the dwarves will be singing.

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    Filming begins today!

    Production has FINALLY and OFFICIALLY begun, on The Hobbit!


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