This topic is unavoidable of course, any ideas?
This topic is unavoidable of course, any ideas?
Ooo, glad someone brought this up, but that means I'll have to put my cunning cap on (which will be hard, seeing as how I was not possessed of any cunning in the first instance).
Well, for starters, i think Maerad and Cadvan will get it on...although I already said that, didn't I? Ah well.
Hmm, cant think of anything else at the mo; guess I'll have to go and read the first two. Again.
Sorry I haven't been around - sudden financial emergencies and having to catch up on everything that was left hanging when I was writing The Crow caught up with me. But I'm back now, and hopefully with a bit more free time - though often to say so is foolishly optimistic with me. (Call me Ms Overcommitted...
My lips are sealed, of course... But I'm intrigued to know what people think might happen. And the question I most commonly get asked is what will happen between Cadvan and Maerad. Some people write absolute begging that they will get together. The fact is that I have no idea whether they will or not...so your guess is as good as mine on that one!
Hmmmm... I guess I shouldn't read this until I finish the book. As far as I know Cadvan's been dead for a whole chapter now...
...but I knew you were tricking so it didn't really spoil anything! I'm one of those boring people who get the whole plot worked out halfway thru the book/movie.
I've just started a reread too. I'm actualy looking for clues in the plot this time (But then again that's a style used by J.K. Rowling that i'm used to and i'm just getting mixed up), (Maerad and Cadvan have just gone to the opening feast of the meet at Innail). OF COURSE, those two have to start SOMETHING, (example- that beautiful moment in Rachida when Cadvan brushed the hair off Maerad's face and in Riddle (you poor poor English readers) on the boat, away from Thorold, that conversation between Maerad and Cadvan on pg 126 .... hmmm interesting). Oh by the way, best moment in Riddle (cept for the end of course) , "A rabbit?"... "It was the first thing i thought of!" lol.
P.S. You pronounce Cadvan "Card-varn", right?
Last edited by Gemini; March 18th, 2005 at 04:01 AM.
Oo yeah the one on the boat where Cadvan is implying that he thinks she is a bit of alright lol. Plus, it does say somewhere in book 2 that Maerad 'had loved Cadvan'.
And to Alison, how can you not know what will happen between them!? I'm all worried now! Noooo!
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the prononciation- I pronounce it Cad- as in Cad, and -van, as in van, in a very english accent.
Well.. it makes sense . I know, a VERY interesting moment between the two of them, and she does say they loved each other on page 212, but then again, it could mean a platonic love, damn it, it HAS to happen!Originally Posted by Mrs. Cadvan
MY GOD!! this is quickly turning into a full on Ship for Maerad and Cadvan, we should introduce some new theme's (or Discourses, i HATE the new sylabus) like..... who do you think will die or how will Maerad defeat/ kill/ overthrow (?) Sharma aka The Nameless One?
Last edited by Gemini; March 18th, 2005 at 08:30 AM.
Arkan does tell her something like the treesong was made with love, and has to be sung with love (or maybe i imagined it).
Plus there's the very first riddle, the; 'First is the singer, hidden from sunlight/ Second the seeker, somethinged by shadows... you get the general gist. So if that refers to Maerad and Cadvan, and that riddle in turn relates to the Treesong itself, then that would indicate some sort of true love between them, wouldn't it?? And the Treesong must be related to defeating Sharma. See, haha, I managed to link the lovey stuff to the evil stuff. Go me!
(I'm, sorry, it's just I'm totally rooting for the Maerad-Cadvan thing. My life would be over if it didn't happen. Yes, I'm that pathetic. *hangs head*)
Aaargh - sorry Rocket. I might try and put a spoiler warning on the thread title, if I can work out the thread technology.
My characters (and I'm sure this is true of most writers) get very bossy and don't always do what I tell them. Maerad is strangely virginal, partly I guess her paranoia about men. And I really don't know how that will work out. (Also, as someone pointed out, Cadvan is a lot older - but in that Bardish way). I have a couple of ideas, but I won't know anything for sure until I actually write it. It's true though, you perspicacious readers, that these books are centrally about love. (Yes, Arkan does say the Treesong must be sung with love). Lots of different kinds of love, not just romantic love. It's certainly true that Maerad and Cadvan love each other, but how they love each other has to work itself out. They're both, I think, quite difficult and reticent people.And to Alison, how can you not know what will happen between them!? I'm all worried now! Noooo!
As for the Treesong - well, more is revealed in Book 3...
gak, i can't wait for the 3rd book and i haven't even read the second one yet, got a bit sidetracked with ian irvines well of echoes series, lol
You're right though, Cadvan himself said that he though that there was more than just chance to their meeting, i'd forgotten about it untill i read it just before. He said that their fates are interwoven or something, i can't remember the exact wording.Originally Posted by Mrs. Cadvan
I found Arkan such an amazing character, he's quite complex isn't he (but then again aren't all Elidhu like that ), i wonder if he reciprocated what Maerad was feeling or if he was using her to his own ends, hmmmm. I think that what he had said to Maerad will get to her, or at least make her relise something about her own feelings, and that that may bring her out of her shell, at least i hope it does !
I only just noticed that little poem at the front the other day, i thought it meant Cadvan and Maerad both too, up untill i read something in the Riddle, it made me think that it actualy meant Maerad through the whole poem, but i can't remember what it was, bugger.
HEY BOB, welcome to "Pellinor Anonymous- for the overly addicted" (who'll find it extremely hard to wait for May 2006)
Last edited by Gemini; March 19th, 2005 at 01:11 AM.
I don't think Maerad and Cadvan should get together. He's too silent, too all-knowing, too been there, done that. Maerad needs someone to challenge her to take charge and to get out there... not someone to hide behind. I hope she finds someone young and fun and learns to trust herself more and take charge. She needs some fun.
Nah, I disagree with you there, Rocket Sheep, but you could probably already guess that.
I could be wrong, but Maerad's fear of men seems to be a relatively prominent sub-theme within the story so far. I'm sure it says somewhere that Maerad does not regard Cadvan as being like one of the men she's used to. Plus there's the way she spurns Dernhil yet doesn't say anything when Cadvan's dropping his lil hints. Perhaps (and very hopefully, in my opinion) Cadvan will help overcome Maerad's fear, by...well, you know what I mean.
I'll be very interested to see what you think when you finish The Riddle, Rocket. Yes, poor Maerad: she's such a serious young insect. And she is having a seriously unfun time at the moment. Personally, I think she has an instinct that love is not about surrender to another, tempting though that might be, and that her sense of herself is too fragile to risk it. And she's kind of like Cadvan, in that she's apt to be stern with herself. But I'm quite serious when I say I don't know what will happen there!Maerad needs someone to challenge her to take charge and to get out there... not someone to hide behind. I hope she finds someone young and fun and learns to trust herself more and take charge. She needs some fun.